Was Abu Talib (as) a Kafir?

Was Abu Talib (as) a Kafir?

Hazrat Abu Talib (as) was the son of Hazrat Abdul-Muttalib (as); the father of Imam Ali (as) & the paternal uncle of the Holy Prophet (saww).

 

 

According to historians, his real name was ‘Imraan. Ayatullah Shaykh Ja’ffar Sub-hani in his book ‘The Message’ writes that: Sometimes it is said that the real name of Abu Talib was ‘Imraan. Some scholars are of the view that Abu Talib was his real name and not his kunniyyah.

 

 

WAS ABU TALIB (AS) A KAFIR?

 

One of the greatest accusations levelled against Abu Talib (as) by the non-Shia’h is that he died as a Kafir meaning as ‘a pagan’. They have based their opinion on this narration that:

 

[When Abu Talib was on his deathbed, the Holy Prophet (saww) went to him while Abu Jahl was sitting beside him. The Holy Prophet (saww) said to him:

“O Uncle! Say LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAH – an expression with which I will defend your case before Allah (SWT)”. Abu Jahl and Abdullah bin Umayyah said, “O Abu Talib! Will you leave the religion of Abdul-Muttalib?” They kept saying this till Abu Talib’s last statement was, “I am on the religion of Abdul-Muttalib”. So the Holy Prophet (saww) said,  “I will keep asking Allah for your forgiveness unless I am forbidden to do so”. Thereupon, verse 113 of Surah al-Tawbah was revealed, in which Allah (SWT) says, “It does not befit the Prophet and the believers to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the pagans, even if they were their near relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of Hellfire”.]

                                                                                      (Sahih al-Bukhari)

 

The non-Shia’h Muslims also have this false narration recorded in their books that:

 

[Abbas bin Abdul-Muttalib said to the Prophet, “You have not been of any benefit to your uncle Abu Talib (though) by Allah, he protected you and used to become angry for your sake”. The Holy Prophet (saww) said, “He is in shallow fire, and had it not been for me, he would have been in the bottom of Hellfire”. ]

                                                                                       (Sahih al-Bukhari)

 

PROOFS OF ABU TALIB’S IMAAN

 

There are many points – historical as well as logical – that prove that Abu Talib (as) was NOT a pagan. He was a Muslim and also died as a Muslim! The verse:

“It does not befit the Prophet and the believers to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the pagans, even if they were their near relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of Hellfire”. (9:113)

 

This verse was not revealed for Abu Talib (as). How can this be established?

 

1.      Hazrat Abu Talib (as) had passed away in Makkah before Hijrah whereas this verse is of Surah al-Tawbah and it was revealed in the 9th year of Hijrah. The long gap between the two shows that there is no connection between them.

 

2.      Only one person has reported the narration, which states that this Ayah was revealed for Abu Talib, and that is Sa’eed bin Musayyab. This man is such that he cannot be relied upon. One account of his life in which Sa’eed himself has declared his affiliation to the worst people is:

 

[Imam Zaynul-‘Aabideen (as) had passed away. Sa’eed bin Musayyab happened to be alive and he also passed by the place where the funeral of Imam (as) was being attended. Sa’eed did not participate in Imam (as)’s funeral prayer. When people asked him in sarcasm, “Do you pray behind Hajjaj (the most evil and cruel ruler)?” Sa’eed boastfully replied, “We even pray behind worst people then Hajjaj”.] (Tafseer-e-Namoona)

 

Therefore, how can we rely on the authenticity of such a person?

 

 

3.      Even if Abu Talib (as) said that, “I am on the religion of Abdul-Muttalib”, the question is whose religion was Abdul-Muttalib following?

 

There is no doubt that Abdul-Muttalib (as) followed the religion of Ibrahim (as) and the biggest testimony is the event of the elephants, which Abraha had brought to destroy the Ka’bah. Abdul-Muttalib (as) prayed to Allah (SWT) to protect the Holy Ka’bah from being destroyed and when he (as) confronted Abraha – he (as) simply asked him to release his livestock. Abraha was shocked. He said, “You are the chief of this tribe and I expected you to plead to me NOT to destroy the Ka’bah”. Abdul-Muttalib (as) said, “I am the owner of these animals and have therefore come to ask for them. As for the Ka’bah, its Master is there to protect it”. So if Abu Talib had said that he (as) followed the religion of

Abdul-Muttalib (as) – how can he (as) become a pagan?

 

 

4.     Last but not least, the verse under discussion was NOT revealed for Abu Talib (as). According to narrations, some Muslims came to the Holy Prophet (saww) and said, “Why don’t you pray to Allah to forgive our fathers and forefathers who died during the days of paganism?” This verse was revealed and the Muslims were informed that they had no right to pray for the forgiveness of such pagans. (Majma’ al-Bayaan)

 

 

Abu Talib (as) was not an ordinary person in the history of Islam. He (as) rendered great sacrifices during his lifetime to protect the Holy Prophet (saww) and his mission. Ibn Abil-Hadeed, the Sunni Scholar and commentator of Nahjul-Balaghah writes: “If Abu Talib and his son Ali were not there, the religion of Islam would not have been successful. Abu Talib supported and protected the Holy Prophet (saww) in Makkah and his son Ali (as) dived in the whirlpools of death in Yathrib for him”. Hazrat Abu Talib (as) and

Sayyida Khadeeja (as) both passed away in the same year and it is a well known fact that the Holy Prophet (saww) declared that year as ‘Aamul-Huzn meaning ‘the year of grief’.

 

21 Responses to “Was Abu Talib (as) a Kafir?”

  1. Anam Says:

    How can they even SUGGEST that our Imams father was a kafir…tauba astagfurallah…or that our prophets UNCLE was a kafir…He who supported his nephew in EVRY step how dare any one say any thing evil about Hazrat Abu Talib. The thought gives my shivers. There would be no I slam if it wasnt for the support of Hazrat Abu Talib. He is the backbone of Islam.

  2. Ameer Abbas Says:

    today i have a deep discussion on this fact with my frnds and got the conclusion that how can a person who is pagan (tauba) read the nikah of our prophet and how can he fight for islam. hazrat Abu Talib was a muslim by birth.

  3. wohlamhay Says:

    Thanks a lot for this article Mr.Syed Mohamad Masoom. i was searching for Tafseer of this Ayat and u mentioned it here….
    “It does not befit the Prophet and the believers to ask Allah’s forgiveness for the pagans, even if they were their near relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of Hellfire”

    and surely Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s) is Muslim.. even i say He(a.s) is the protector of Islam with whom’s help Islam started to spread.

  4. Zain Ali Abid Says:

    Dear All,

    I suggest one thing to all those who belive that Abu Talib was not a muslim, That is…. If Abu Talib was not a muslim than how he can recite the Surah Fateha while residing the Nikkah of Holy Prophet (saww)EVEN NOT A SINGLE VERSE OF Quran HAD REVEALED UNTIL THAT TIME.

    Before the revealation of Quran, RECITATION THE QURAN BY ABU TALIB IS A STRONG EVIDENCE OF HIS FAITH AND BELIEF IN ALLAH.

  5. Ahmed Says:

    Assalam alikum
    Bismillah Arrah man Ar raheem…..well this is totally fake and going towards the Shia Aqeedah. They rejected thr Hadees of Sahi Bukhari which is the most authentic Hadees book and the majority of Muhadiseen are agreed upon sahi Bukhari that each and every hadith of Sahi Muslims and Bukhari is correct and verified so no doubt about any of Hadees. this is fake propaganda about abu talib he is in the Hellfire according to this Hadees

    • salman Says:

      I think you will b in hell fire , because the hadith was fake and there is only one ravvi of that hadith . You never raise issue about fathers of Abubakar, umar and Usman. It shows how much hate in your heart about Ali and his father and you will receive torture and your face will be as pig and swine in the day of judgment thanks.

  6. Aafaq Says:

    What a proposterous thing to say? Abu Talib (as) was a Muslim. This is the man that raised Huzoor SAW during his childhood years, fed him from his hands, even performmed his nikaah ceremony which requires you to start with the name of Allah. Anyone that refutes this fact that Imam Ali’s father was not a Muslim is either too stupid to be a Muslim or too wicked to be a Muslim. And a reply to Ahmed, you suggest Abu Talib is in hellfire and this is Shia propaganda, I am Sunni, but I ask you this. What will the Shia bothers and sisters get from saying he was a Muslim andn what will you get by denying it eh? So by those standards of sahi bukhari the prophets nikah was performed by a non muslim and therefore null and void! Put that into your pipe and smoke it, who is going to go to the hell fire now

  7. M. Abutalib Says:

    Dear Ahmed,
    My question is by what evidence do you describe that all ahadis in the S.bukhari are authentic and how can abutalib a.s can be in hell fire. Has Naoozobillah Allah forgotten about the sacrifices that man has given for the sake of islam, and how can Ali a.s the Kull e Imaan say that Abibaker’s parents were only one who accepted islam whole Abubaker’s age was old

  8. murtaza shuja Says:

    assalam un alaikum
    aap ne hazrat abu talib (a s) ke eman ki jo shahadat di hai uske liye shukria aur allah aap ko taraqqi de ameen aap ki dua yaqinan qubul hoti hogi mujhe duaon main yaad rakhein murtaza shuja naqvi sikander amrohvi

  9. syed nasir Says:

    Some people object that Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.) never accepted Islam and never recited Kalma. I am quite amazed at their comments since they themselves never recited Kalma to become Muslims. Those born in Muslim families do not need to recite Kalma to become Muslims. There are no traditions in my knowledge that Imam Ali(a.s.) ever recited Kalma to become a Muslim. The one who has been a non-Muslim before really needs to recite Kalma to become a Muslim.

    Now consider the following:
    - Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.) was the one who hosted the first dawah of Islam in his house – Dawat Zul Asheera. All the Dawahs hosted by any muslim now a days are in fact Sunnat of Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.).

    - He was the one who arranged the marriage of Prophet Mohammad(sawaw) with Hazrat Khadija(a.s.).

    - He was the one who recited the Nikah of the Holy Prophet(sawaw) and that Nikah started with Hamd of Allah(swt) and praise for His Prophet(sawaw). It also referred to the Prophet-hood of Hazrat Ibrahim(a.s.), the Holy books sent by Allah(swt) and all praise to Allah(swt) to have ordained Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.) in the progeny of Hazrat Ibrahim(a.s.).
    Just a word of thought for the objectionist – if Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.) was not a muslim then how did Prophet Mohammad(sawaw) accept a Mushrik (Naozo billah) to recite his Nikah and even if it were so, why don’t the objectionists follow this Sunnat of the Holy Prophet(sawaw) now.

    - He was the one who paid the Mehr of Hazrat Khadija on behalf of Prophet Mohammad(sawaw).

    - According to Quranic instruction, a Muslim women cannot remain in the Nikah of a non-Muslim after accepting Islam neither can live with a non-Muslim. Hazrat Bibi Fatima bint-e-Asad remained in the Nikah of Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.) until his death.

    Another word of thought for the objectionist: It is accepted by all sects that Hazrat Bibi Fatima bint-e-Asad had accepted Islam so how did the Prophet(bpuh&hf) allow her to stay with Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.)?

    - As I stated above, Allah(swt) calls the protection of Hazrat Abu Talib(a.s.) as His(swt) own protection. In the entire Quran there is not one mention of any act of a Mushrik that Allah(swt) has called His own act.

    - Finally, Prophet Mohammad(sawaw) has stated in a hadith that on the day of judgment the one who raises an orphan will be together with me in the heaven as these two fingers are (pointing to his two fingers). Now where would be the one who raised the orphan who became the Prophet of Islam

  10. Sulayman Alexander Says:

    Dear All…

    It’s just obvious that the Shia follows will say that Abu Talib was a muslim, because he was the father of Sayyidina Ali. Similarly, the Sunni followers will say his not a muslim because his the great father of the Shia sect.

    Can we please look at the facts…

    1)He was the paternal uncle of the prophet Muhammad
    2)He raised the prophet from a young age
    3)He provided employment to the prophet
    4)He married him to sayyidinah Gajidah
    5)He provided protection and assistance to the prophet
    The above is recorded undisputable facts and cannot be changed or removed from history.

    What we also have to look at is the following ….
    1)There is no authentic hadith to comfirm his conversion
    2)He died after naboowat meaning in Prohet Muhmmad’s prophetic period.
    3)The prophet did not need Abu Talib’s protection. Allah is enough
    4)Abu Talib’s death was great sorrow for the prophet, that’s natural.

    Because there is no authentic proof that he was a muslim and everything around
    Abu Talib is about interpretation and opinions; I would like to advise Sunni and Shia followers
    to respect one another’s views as good muslims should do.

  11. Rehan Khan Says:

    “Don’t throw pearls at the swine”. This admitted assertion throws a web of thought into the vista of knowledge and adds colour to the meaning of wisdom. Muslim must scrutinize every iota of fact with the yardstick of wisdom and unbiasedly disseminate the right face of truth. We have come across numerous facts and evidences that testify that Abu Talib did not venture into an act of embrace into the club of Islam. On account of implausible gesture he can not be ascertained to be a steadfast Muslim. Even though, he served as a launching pad for development of Prophet,yet, he can not be purported as a Muslim. The last moments of Abu Talib serve as an opening into the vista of this admitted truth. The virtual verse of Quran is the glaring testament to the validity of his infidelity. May Allah enlighten you with the aura of wisdom and infuse an air of honesty oriented truth into the spectrum of your hearts.

  12. Azhar Abbas Says:

    Assallaam Alaikum, regarding Sulayman Alexander, very interesting to see someone bridging the sunni shia gap with his one sided and biased comment. All one has to do is read the comment by brother syed nasir with an open heart and mind, rather than being “sum mun buq mun”(deaf dum and blind). Allah (s.w.t) has given “AQL” to every human to use, it’s a pity that some choose to follow their fore fathers beliefs instead of accepting the truth which befalls their eyes and ears. May Allah (s.w.t) guide you blind people to love the ones that the Prophet (s.a.w.w) loved and shun, despise, hate and do laanat on the ones that hurt him (s.a.w.w) and his pure progeny. Allah Hafiz !

  13. Iqbal Says:

    Dear Muslims
    Only Allah knows what is in the hearts of humans. We have no right to speak of anybody and no right to Judge who is a muslim and who is not. Allah knows everything and Allah is merciful. May Allah forgive his prophet’s (S.A.W) Uncle. We prey together with our Great Prophet. Ameen. Keep praying all muslims instead of fighting and arguing. May Allah guide us all. Ameen.

  14. AT NAQVI Says:

    Well in reply to Mr.Alexander’s facts,one fact should also be agreed on is that the nikah of the prophet (saww) was recited by jinab e Abutalib. if he was a pagan that means our beloved prophet naoozobillah was also pagan before announcing prophet hood. Do u agree this fact? Another fact which he told was that there was no need of protection of jinab e Abutalib. Allah was enough, in reply to that havent u read surah Duha,
    in which Allah says “Didnt we find u an orphan and we raised u”. By which means that Allah blessed his mercy on the prophet?
    Of course major part of bringing him up was played by jinab e Abutalib. Did Allah relate his work to a pagan?
    These are the points we need to think about

    Wassalam

  15. syed sajad hussain Says:

    Dear readers.
    when Moses was offered the milk of maids ,he refused as same was haram,quran witnesses the event.how could prophet mohd sa ,the prohet above all prohpets,and rahmat for universe,could eat for years in house you claim was house of kafir.Islam is religion based on reason rationale.we are ordained to use our intelect in all sheres,then follow.a small incident which reveals the fact about the issue of abu talib.during the shab abutalib ,abu talib used to change the bed of prohet during night ,making ali to sleep in prohets bed to prevent any mishap to prophet .if you look in to this matter through intellect,prophet was his nephew and ali was his son,no one could sacrifice his son for his nephew ,this is quite natural and not acceptable to any mind.there was something that abutalib knew which uptil now our suni brothern are unaware of.wasalm

  16. Hasan Ali Says:

    assalm,
    first of all thanks to almighty allah, then i would like to say that, i read a leaflet which was distributed on the occasion of 12th rabiul awwal in same it was written that prophet born on monday, & hearing this news abu laheb freed his woman slave, saying that today he got a nephew. due to this act, allaha raises the azab from abu laheb, on monday of every week, it means abu laheb remains free of azab for 52 days in a year, & abutalib who rose & uplifted islam & prophet & faced banishment along with prophet in shoaib-e-abutalib remain homeless for 3 years of strife & struggle, which abutalib had never been faced, then after this abu talib is in hell(azab) throughout (whole of) the year…………..so decide

  17. Azad Says:

    Abu Talib died Muslim or pagan, that’s not the question, rather the focus is here on what he did for Islam, we muslims believe that whoever has faith in “La Ilaaha Illallaah Muhammad ur Rasoolullah” is a muslim”. Abu Talib believed that there is no God except Allah (La Ilaaha Illallaah) if we say he followed the religion of Adbul Mutallib (Ibrahim’s religion), and supporting Muhammad in spreading Islam indicates that he was accepting the prophecy of Muhammad (pbuh) (Muhammad ur Rasoolullah). if no body is the evidence of him declaring Shahada, so how about the above logic just explained. Abu Talib was a Muslim by heart and deeds, so only thing missing is his declaration of shahada by mouth (tongue) and who knows he might have told that many times to Prophet (pbuh) and accepted by all means, now why it is not revealed can be a secret and will of Allah so that we should use our logic to figure most things out.

    Allah guide us all the right way. A’meen

  18. Azad Says:

    Salam u Alaikum, Abu Talib died Muslim or pagan, that’s not the question, rather the focus is here on what he did for Islam, we muslims believe that whoever has faith in “La Ilaaha Illallaah Muhammad ur Rasoolullah” is a muslim”. Abu Talib believed that there is no God except Allah (La Ilaaha Illallaah) if we say he followed the religion of Adbul Mutallib (Ibrahim’s religion), and supporting Muhammad in spreading Islam indicates that he was accepting the prophecy of Muhammad (pbuh) (Muhammad ur Rasoolullah). if no body is the evidence of him declaring Shahada, so how about the above logic just explained. Abu Talib was a Muslim by heart and deeds, so only thing missing is his declaration of shahada by mouth (tongue) and who knows he might have told that many times to Prophet (pbuh) and accepted by all means, now why it is not revealed can be a secret and will of Allah so that we should use our logic to figure most things out.

    Allah guide us all the right way. A’meen

  19. reader Says:

    hello,

    i think the discussion is going quite well but what i feel here that by saying that he will be in fire or he wont be in the fire of hell is not a judgement tha should be given by us (may Allah forgive us for our sins and mistakes). who are we to decide that i must say that please leave this judgement up to Allah he knows it best. dont spread the point of differences here dont give any judgements i believe Allah has not given any authority in our hands.
    but please just refer to the following Quranic verse;

    Al-Baqara [2:62]
    إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَالَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَالنَّصَارَى وَالصَّابِئِينَ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحاً فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلاَ خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلاَ هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ

    Inna allatheena amanoo waallatheena hadoo waalnnasara waalssabieena man amana biAllahi waalyawmi alakhiri waAAamila salihan falahum ajruhum AAinda rabbihim wala khawfun AAalayhim wala hum yahzanoona

    2:62 Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the SABIANs,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

    i donot want to elaborate it any more but jus think a sabian is freed from fear and is rewarded and Abu Talib will be in fire of HELL?

  20. reader Says:

    and just one more point i would like to add that kafir is the one who is “munkir” who denied the prophethood of Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) and created hindrences in his preaching, this term cannot not be used for all the non-muslims.so please dont disgrace Abu Talib by calling him a Kafir because he never denied the prophethood neither he created any hindrance for Hazrat Muhammad (SAW). so by no means he can be fall into the category of being Kafir. dont use the termonologies without knowing its exact meaing and usage. even if you believe that he was a non-muslim it doesnot proof that he was a kafir


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