On those who believe And do good deeds There is no blame For what they ate (in the past).” (Quran 5: 93)
Statement of Dr Israr.
(Some companions along with Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) were gathered together and had a few drinks and this was before the prohibition of alcohol. Then time for prayer came and Ali (ra) was asked to lead the prayers in which due to intoxication he made a mistake. Then the above mentioned verse of Surah Nisa was revealed. )
BY DR. ISRAR AHMAD
PROTEST
We, the muslim ummah, Strongly Condemn Dr. israr Ahmad for his statements recently given on Qtv against the Khulafaa e Rashideen, Ameerul momineen Ali ibne abi talib (a.s), based on fabricated hadith through unreliable narrators.
We request all the Muslims should immediately take action and email Qtv to stop telecasting his lectures till he apologized.
info@qtvonline.com, info@arydigital.tv
We also demand ignorant Dr.israr ahmad , tenders an unconditional apology to muslim ummah.
KARACHI – Sindh government has decided to take stern action against Dr Israr Ahmed, who was accused of passing objectionable remarks against Hazrat Ali (RA) while speaking in a local TV channel programme. Sindh Home Minister Dr Zulfiaqar Mirza has assured the annoyed religious scholars that the government, after looking into the matter, would lodge a case against Dr Israr Ahmed on account of his irresponsible behaviour, The Nation was told on Thursday
Keep us on the right path. The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray. (Al-Quran, 01:6-7)
We should not forget “The policy of divide and rule among followers of faiths and ethnic groups is an old policy of enemies and they are very expert in pursuing that policy.
Panel ulema of AQYouth india
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July 1, 2008 at 4:24 am
Mai hairaan hoon,
Kay woh jo Khana-e-Kaaba mai paida hua, jis nay syed al anbiya (Hazrat Mohammad S.A.W.W) kay ghar parwarish pai, woh jo khalistan Hashmi hai, woh jo akela Faateh Badr, Khandaq, Khayber, o hunain hai, woh jo kabhi kisi jang say nahi bhagaa, woh jis ka naam ALI nabi nay khud rakha, Allah kay 99 naamo say agar kisi ka koi naam hai tu woh Abdul kay saath hai, yeh akela hai jis ka naam Abdul Ali nahi balkay Sirf Ali Hai, jo naam zameen par anay walon mai say kisi ka bhi nahi thaa, woh jo Ahl-e-Bayt say hai jin ki pakezgi ki gawahi khud quran nay di, woh jo Baab al ilm hain, woh jo nabi ki beti Fatima kay shohar hain, woh jinho nay apni saari zindagi tahafuz-e-nabooat mai guzar di, woh jinho nay sab say pehly kalma Rasool parha, woh jinho nay Haalat-e-Rakoo mai zakkat di, jo kabhi maazi mai but parrast nahi thay, jinkay mashoor alqaab, Murtaza, Mushkil Kusha, Abu Turab, Haider, Amir-al-momineen, Imam-al-mutaqeen hain,
Unkay baray mai tu Dr. Israr nay aisi hadees dhoond li,
Laiken who hazraat jinho nay saari zindagi rasool-e-khuda say dushmani ki aur talwaar kay khauf say 40 saal ki umar kay baad islam kabool kia, jinho nay zyada waqt jahalat mai guzara aur but parasti ki, unkay baray mai ibn-e-kasir aur in jaisay aur muhaddison ki kitabon mai abhi tak mai koi aisi hadees nahi dhoond paya,
Mai hairaan tu zaroor hoon,
Laiken saath saath mai Allah ka shukar guzar bhi hoon jis nay Momin aur Munafiq kay farq ko zahir kia aur Ahl-e-Bait ki mohabbat ko Rasool Allah ki mohabbat ka mayaar banaya
Wasalam,
Kamran Arif
Sharjah, UAE.
July 7, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Dr.Israr Use abuse language about Hazrat Ali(k.a.w) on QTV program on 7th Jamadi-us-Sani 12 June 2008
Dr.Anita Rai blasts Blasphemous Dr.Israr
Dr.Israr Ahmed (LANAT-ALLAH!)
“(Remember) the day when We will call every people with their Imam…” Quran 17:71
On the Day of ULTIMATE Reckoning all of creation will be summoned with
their respective Imams.
Our Prophet MUHAMMAD-E-MUSTAFA (peace upon him and his pure progeny)
has introduced our IMAM to us and identified the SHAJRA-E-TAYYIBA for us. As a result of the immeasurable mercy of Rasoolallah (saw) we have come to know our IMAM, with the declaration of whose Wilayat, DEEN-e-KHUDA-O-MUSTAFA has culminated in perfection of FAITH and
completion of GRACE (nemat) upon all creation.
We are infinitely indebted to RASOOLALLAH(SAW) for this as both the
Sunni and the Shia report his profound hadith: “One who dies without
knowing (marafat) his/her IMAM dies in a state of absolute ignorance
(jahiliya).”
Oh! Dr. of Blasphemy, in Islam, dying as a jahil is equivalent to
dying as a kafir.
Your sinful statement about IMAM-E-AWWAL ALI IBN ABI TALIB(AS) has
shown everyone THE CONDITION YOU ARE GOING TO DIE IN!!
None in his/her right mind believes in such garbage from Tirmidhi when
the same Tirmidhi narrates from Anas that the Prophet said (astagfar):
“The believer in Paradise will be given such and such strength for
sexual intercourse.” He was asked, “O Messenger of Allah, will he
really be able to do that?” He said, “He will be given the strength of
one hundred (men).” Sunan al-Tirmidhi hadith #2459
Tirmidhi, was an ardent student of the (bukhar) fever-ridden brains of
Bukhari, who happily reports that ‘Aisha has narrated: “The Prophet
and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub.
During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn
below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to
bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my
periods (menses).” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, hadith no.
298)
Dr. Israar, the trash you have puked in your inexcusably audacious
remarks, have also proved beyond doubt who are your Imams(la).
Subhan-Allah, how wonderfully the Quran hammers it, when it announces:
“And We made them Imams who call to the fire, and on the day of
resurrection they shall not be assisted. And We caused a curse to
follow them in this world, and on the day of resurrection they shall
be of those made to appear hideous.” 28: 41- 42
Your Imams(la) are the rogues who conspired in and partook of, the
crimes at Saqifa Banu Saida. Your spiritual masters(la), despite being
the fathers-in-law of Rasoolallah ignored and left his corpse and ran
to Saqifa to stab the covenant they had made with their Prophet at its
back; it must also be noted that they ran with the same speed with
which they fled the Battle-fields of Ohud and Hunain deserting their
Prophet! Your Imams(la) are the bastards from Shajra-e-Khabisa(la) who
murdered the 11 MOSAIC PRINCES from the PURE PROGENY of MUHAMMAD(SA),
- the IMMACULATE IMAMS(as), ignorance of and disobedience to, whom
adds up to kufr!! Your Imams(la) are the original terrorists who set
fire to the Door of the HER HOLINESS(SA) LADY OF LIGHT FATIMA, killed
her and her baby, Mohsin(AS). These are the ones who slaughtered the
family of OUR PROPHET in Karbala and imprisoned the members of the
HOLY HOUSE. Your ideological siblings, Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar
and Zarqawi, etc. are wrecking havoc on the civilized world as they
unleash the terrorism they have learnt so well from your ancestors,
Abu Bakr, Umar son of Zahhak the whore, Uthman, Abu Sufian, Muawiya,
Yazid and their progeny [God's curse on them].
Shah Abdul Aziz says in pg. 263 of Tohfa Ithna Ashariya:
“What opinion should we have of those who express joy on Ashura when
IMAM HUSSAIN was killed; those who marry on that day; those who show
disrespect for the family of the Prophet and children of Syeda Fatima?
It is correct to categorise any such person as a MURATAD.”
You got your children married on Ashura. What better can be expected
from such a MURTAD as you?
The truth regarding your birth is reflected in RASOOLALLAH’s(saw)
hadith, which LADY ZAINAB(SA) recited in the court of Ibn Ziyad(la):
“My grandfather(saw) has said: ‘Enmity and malice (bogz) of Ali(as) is
forever carved on the foreheads of aulaade-e-zina, the illegitimate
born’.”
In his last words to Ali and Fatima, the Prophet of Islam had
denounced fourteen men and invoked the curse of God upon them: “O
Allah! I denounce them all: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Talha, Abdul
Rehman ibn Awf, Sad bin Abi Waqqas, Abu Ubayda Jarraah, Muawiya ibn
Abu Sufyan, Amr bin Aas, Abu Musa Ashari, Mughirah ibn Shobah, Aws ibn
Hadthan, Abu Hurayra and Abu Talha” The fancy drinking party you have
quoted from Tirmidhi Sharif is supposed to have taken place in the
house of Abdul Rehman ibn Awf! Is it a coincidence?
Dr. of Apostasy, you are a disgustingly sick man, for whom the roaring
fires are eagerly waiting!
GOD’S CURSE UPON YOU AND YOUR SPIRITUAL BRETHREN. AMEN.
DR. ANITA RAI
LONDON
July 10, 2008 at 11:07 am
Asslam-o-Alaikum brothers,
Mera in musalmanoon per roonay ka dil kurta hay kay bolnay ya likhnay say pehlay soochtay bhi nahien kay kia keh rahay haien.?
israr nay jis shakhsiat kay baray mea rawaiat byan ki hay uss kia azmat ko lakhoon koshishoon kay baad bhi chupaya nahien ja saka.
muger jin kay fazayal yea bayan kurta hay un kay baray mea in ki apni tafaseer or ahadees ki kitaboon mea kia kuch hay shayad yea jantay nahien…ya ager jantay haien tou chupanay ki koshish kurtay haien muger woh chupnay walli nahien….?
for example….kon nahien janta kay sharab peenay ki aadet kis ki ghutti mea thi…?
kon nahien janta kay wohi murnay say pehlay bhi ..NABIZ… (AIK KISAM KI SHARAB JO KHAJOOR SAY BUNTI THI) MEA DAWAI PEE KUR MURA….KON THA JO SAFAR KAY DORAAN APNI MUSHK MEA SAY KISI GHULAM KAY SHARAB PEENAY KI WAJHA SAY HANTROON SAY MARTA THA….?
ORR AGER NAHIEN JANTA TOU JAN LAY KAY YEAH AADATEEN KHALIFA 2ND UMAR IBNE KHATAB KI THIEN ….JO RASOOL ALLAH KAY GHAR MEA PARWARASH PAATA HOO USS PER ILZAM NAHIEN LAGAYA JA SAKTA.
aisi bohut si rawayat haien jo ager mimbaroon say bayan hona shuroo ho gaien tou musalmanoon ko chupnay ki jagha nahien milay gi.
abhi waqat hay sooch loo…..?
July 13, 2009 at 1:57 pm
sharam karo jahil insaan
tum kiss shaks kai bare mai ye baat bol rahe ho
HAZRAT UMER kai lie doob kai mar ja zaleel insan
agar akisi shaks nai ghalti ki (agar ki) to is mai un ka kia qasor is sai tum zaleel logo ka Bughz samne aaraha hai
ager pehle 3 khalifa itne hi bure the to phir HAZRAT ALI nai un kai khilaf JEHAD q nhi kia?
tum logo ki aqal per parde par gae hain tumhai koi nhi samjha sakta
ALLAH hum sab ko aql e saleem atta farmae
AAMEEN
September 25, 2009 at 4:21 pm
apne dmagh ka ilaj krwa. tm log jo HAZRAT HUSSAIN(R.A) K QATIL HO AJ USI KI SAZA MAIN PEET”TE HO. TM LOG AUR HM BHI HAZRA UMAR(R.A) AUR HAZRAT ALI(R.A) K PAOON KI KHAK BHI NHI BN SKTE AUR TM AISA KHTE HO. HYA KRO AGR KR SAKTE HO TO
July 17, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I understand the reaction of people, specifically Shia individuals, to this statement made by Dr Israr due to which he is now being defamed. But we must keep in mind the following things in determining our stance on his statement:
1. The man himself has repeatedly said he is not an aalem of any sort,
2. Identified the hadith and its sources and the context of it,
3. Has publicly apologized for any offense he might have caused in which he explains the reasons for how and why his statement came out like it did (and I for one believe him and consider the apology genuine and credible).
As far as I can tell, the point was not that Hazrat Ali used to get drunk and pray and then make mistakes, but the immediate point in quoting that hadith (as unreliable as it may be) was the fact that the hurmat of drinking alcohol had not yet been declared, and so those of the sahaaba who did consume alcohol had no order from God not to do so and thus were FREE FROM ANY BLAME WHATSOEVER. I believe this has been overlooked by many brothers in this forum and also on other websites. Furthermore, I believe the broader idea of the lecture by the Dr was to identify that commandments from Allah Rabbul Izzat were gradually revealed to the first Muslims. That is, first they were ordered by Rasul Allah to declare tauheed and abandon idol worship. Then later came nimaaz, roza, haraam/halal, etc. This was done specifically here with the explanation of the context of a few specific verses of Sura al Nisa.
Now as for the people who have topically looked at the news/website stories and references, I urge you to investigate further instead of simply passing judgement and stating your opinion on the matter. Please refrain from denouncing individuals simply for the sake of it, who are perhaps more learned than me or you, lest we remain ignorant. We do not need to hold protests with the picture of a prominent Muslim lecturer on the floor while we stomp on his face. We need unity and justice among ourselves in the face of aggression that our Muslim nations face today from the world.
Allah hum mahdina fi man hadayt, wa aafina fi man aafayt. Salaam un alal mursaleen, wal hamdulillah hi Rabb il aalameen.
October 21, 2009 at 8:30 pm
AOA….
WELL SAID BRO…atleast u spoke out of patience and knowledge rather that eXXAGERATING stuff and USIng acute abusive language unlike others…by shouting they thnk they are portraying THEMSELVES as true lover ov HAZRAT ALI(r.a)bt cant follow his foorsteps n act LIKE A BEHAVED man/women…do they thnk their reaction to dr israr wud be acceptable in the court of ALLAh?
n for argumnet sake say,though i dnt blv it he wud hv said anythng with wrng intention,bt even if he did…HE IS A HUMAN BEING people and AGAR insan se GHALTIYAN NA HOTO WO FARISHTA NA BANJAE…..se said one thng n u guys tarnished his reputation like anythng…bt u wnt c the BRIGHTER SIDE OV HIM….aik ghalti k badle hazaar nekiyan b to kar raha hai wo insan to kiya sabr-o-TAHAMMUL k saath samjhaya nae ja sakta…..APKO masla HAI aaap KHABARDAAR RAHEN….NA follow karen…aur auron tak apna point of view pohoncha den….Bt yeh kaunsa tareeka hai…IM SHOCKD AT U GUYS….
July 17, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Salamalykum,
Thanks Mazhar Husseini for detail reply and thinking about Muslim unity…..
1.You are 100% right that We need unity and justice among ourselves in the face of aggression that our Muslim nations face today from the world.
.But how it is possible? I am sure it is not possible if our leaders continue giving lectures which they are sure that it will hurt any other sect of Muslims.
.Dr Israr was well aware that his statement will create dispute among Muslims as it will hurt those who believe in Holy Quran ..infallibility of the Prophets and ahlulbayt.
.Which practice today enemies of slam adopted against slam and muslim? They started to assassination of character of Holy personalities of Islam and declaring Muslims terrorist and characterless example is Recent fitna film, cartoon of Holy Prophet(s.a.w) issue and like this so many others that Holy Prophet(s.a.w) married a kid or was having so many wives.
What Dr israr did? Tried to assassin character of khulfa e rashideen and ahlulbayt.
2 .You said: The man himself has repeatedly said he is not an aalim of any sort,
9.Reply: If he is not a Aalim then he must not give lectures on islam and Islamic personalities. It is also a sin ..speaking without having proper knowledge.
3.You said: Identified the hadith and its sources and the context of it,
.His statement was based of zaeef and rejected hadith of tirmizee. He was aware that is will hurt few sects of Muslims who believe in infallibility of the Prophets and ahlulbayt. And otber hadith of saheeh.
I am giving a hadith:
The Messenger of Allah recited “Verily Allah intends to keep off from you every kind of uncleanness O’ People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you a perfect purification”. (Quran, the last sentence of Verse 33:33) and then the Messenger of Allah said: “Thus Me and my Ahlul-Bayt are clear from sins.”
Sahih al-Tirmidhi, as quoted in:
al-Durr al-Manthoor, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, v5, pp 605-606,198 under the commentary of Verse 33:33 of Quran
Dala’il al-Nabawiyyah, by al-Bayhaqi
.Others such as al-Tabarani, Ibn Mardawayh, Abu Nu’aym, etc.
Please note the word “thus” in the highlighted part of the above tradition. It means the Prophet himself is CONCLUDING that the verse MEANS Ahlul-Bayt (including himself) are sinless
and Holy quran says:
20.”Verily Allah intends to keep off from you every kind of uncleanness O’ People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you with a perfect purification”. (Quran, the last sentence of Verse 33:33)
Do I need to make any comment?!
.WHY Dr israr neglected this hadith? which match with verse of Holy Quran..?
And when Abraham was tested by his Lord with certain commands and he fulfilled them. Then He said: Lo! I appoint you an Imam for mankind. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring (will there be Imam)? He said: My covenant does not reach the wrong-doers (among them).” (Quran 2:124).
And I remind Dr Israr by these words of holy Quran::
And seek not occasions for mischief in the land: for Allah loves not those who do mischief. ” (28:77).
Dear Mazhar Husseini … If you read saheeh bukhari, tirmizi the n you also know i can quote more than 100 hadith which may create dispute among Muslims…..why to use such Hadith ?
We understand Dr. israr is not a kid..he did this intentionally and his act resemble with enemies of islam who are trying to assassin character of Holy prophets and Holy khulfa e islam.
.ws
S.M.MAsoom
July 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm
men ny sab kuch paraha hy but shiaa hazraat bhi ajeeb hein yeh bhi bohat ghalat hy k Hazart Aki (RA) ki mohabbat mein khud say hi Hazrat Umar Farooq (RA) sy bughaz aur nafrat rakhein.Yeh log shariyaat sy maawraaa deegar masaalik per behas krtay hein .aur kufar tak chalay jatay hen.
June 7, 2009 at 5:30 am
Bismillah Hir Rehman Nir Rahim, Aap apne dimagh ka elaj karwaiye is liye ke baat ho rahi thi Israr Iblisi ki aap Khalifae doum ka zikar khyon ched rahe hain is se saaf zahir hai key un ki mohabbat mein aap Ali a.s. ko bhul gaye, khair, Meri Dua hai ke aap ka hashr bhi Khalifae doum ke saath ho. Main Shiane Ali ki Taraf se Protest Karta Hoon Ke Jo kuch us Iblisi ne Kaha Hai us ka Hashr is Duniya mein aur Aakhrat mein us ko zaroor melay is liye yeh to aap ki fitrat hai keyaap ne Hazrat Ali ke Fazael aur Alqab un ko saunp Diye jo is ke layeq they hi nahin aur un ki Buraiyan Maula Ali ki taraf Mod dein jiskey woh layeq nahin they, chand ki taraf mitti uchalne se khud par hi padti hai. Mera maula bemisaal tha ,hai, aur Rahega aap kitni bhi koshish kar lein aap ki is jang mein Iblis aap ke saath hai aur aap ki yeh Jang Allah s.w.t key saath hai.
July 9, 2009 at 10:01 am
mujhe yeh samjh nahi aata shiya ISLAM ki baat q kerte hain in logon ka to islam se koi taalluq hi nahi hai aur na hissa hai… aap log apne ko peeton aur sirf maafi mango ALLAH se jo aap logon HAZRAT IMAM HUSSAIN k sath kia….
July 13, 2009 at 2:15 pm
hussain
mere dost
aap nai kaha kai khalifa doum ki baat q cher di to shayad aap nai oper parha nhi kai aik zaleel or kamene shaks nai kis tarah kai ghatiya ilzaam un per lagae hain is lie baat cheri
or rhi baat aap ki dua ki kai tumhara hashar HAZRAT UMER kai saath ho to ALLAH tumhari zaban mubarak kare agar aisa hoa to kia hi baat hai or rhi baat HAZRAT ALI ki to un ki shaan mai ghustakhi karna to hamare nazdeek IMAN kharab ker deta hai
to yar tum log bughz na rakho warna isi bughz mai jal kai marjao gai jaise ab tak mar rhe ho apne hi hatho sai khud ko marte ho is sai bari phitkaar tum logo per kia hogi
ALLAH aqal de
July 18, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Respected sanaullah,
Allah ka shuker hai ki aap ko yeh samajh aa geya ki Dr. Israr ghalt hai.. Shia kisee sae bughz nahin rekhtae siwae uskae jo Allah aur unkae rasool Muhammad (s.a.w) aur unkae paakh aulaadoon sae bughz rakhae..
Kya yeh ghalat hai…Ki muslim unsae muhabbat kertae jinsae muhammat ka hukm quran main diya geya hai…?
Yaqeenan Kufer kae qareeb jana ghalat hai….lekin koi bhi insaan jab dunia main mayoos ho jata hai toh bhi kufer kae qareeb pahuncha jata hai, jab koi yeh kehta hai..yeh kaam maine kiyae..tab bhi kufer kae qareeb chala jata hai…kyoon ki mayoos hone ka matlab Allah pae bharosa nahin aur Main lawz ka istemaal bata ta hai ki Allah sab kerta hai ispae yaqeen nahin..
Her muslim ko behas kae dauraan is baat ka khyaal rekhna chaiyae ki kahin kufer kae qareeb na chala jae…..
ws
July 19, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Aassaalam-o-allaikum
mujay really dhek kar afsoos howa that
Dr. israr jaisay schalour is tharan ki batain kar sakta hay really mind blowing.
July 19, 2008 at 6:02 pm
my name is Shahzaib Munir
i really shocked after listning Dr. Israr ahmed he tried to hurt the pakistanis who r already hurt by the diffrent individuals but he hurts our soul n heart.
July 19, 2008 at 6:10 pm
This statement is very rude this work is done through the help of devil because a good muslim even cannot thought something about any Shabbi of PBUH specialy about Hazzrat Ali (RA).
April 28, 2009 at 4:27 pm
i think you all are crazy dr.israr is right and he has given the refrences of many book on the commentroy of quran by many mufassereen which clearly tellls this . so you all should open your eyes and see those books. and dr.israr is number 1 he is very great person and he is the best you silly shia’s
April 30, 2009 at 11:25 am
I am amazed that a person having name “Hassan” can write such rubbish.Atleast keep reverence of your name. Salman Rushdi also gave references of Shahe-Sitta,Ahle-Sunnat sacred books.So should we start believing on what nonsense/ filth he wrote about our Holy Prophet(PBUH)?As per your theory, we should…humn.??????
July 19, 2008 at 8:17 pm
ISRA AHMED IS A EVEIL SCHOLER
MOLA ALI (A.S) K MUTALIQ ASI BATIN WOHI KAR SAKTA HAI JO ILM-E-DEEN SE DOR HO OR DUSHMAN-E-ISLAM KA CHANY WALA HO MAI EK BAT KEHTA HO K APP NA SHIA KI SUNA NA SUNNI KI BAS YEHJ DEHKO RASOOL ALLAH (S.A.W.A.WS) NEY KIS PE LANAT-E-KHUD DI OR KIS KO KULK-E-IEMAAN KHA BA KIS KO HAQ KHA OR KIS SE KHA K KAMRY SE BAHAR CHALY JAO ISLAM SRIF US KI IQTADA MAIN CHALY GA JIS KO KHUDA NEY BHEJA NA K USKI JIS KO DUNIA K BEWAQKOFON OR SHEHTANOO NEY APNY FIYDY K LIYE MOQRAR KIA KO JANG MAI BHAGA OR KON SHABE-E-HIJRAT BISTAR-E-RASOOL PE SOYA, KIA HUM UN KI IQTADA KARIN K JINHO NEY ALE RASOOL KA GHAR JALAYA YA UN KI JO SART-E-MUSTAQEEM KI TARFA NAHI BALKY SART-E-MUSTAQEEM PAR HAIN, HUM UN KO MANAIN JO HAMAIN BAHKSHWAIN GAY YA UN KO MANIN JIN KO APNY BAKSHY JANAY KA PATA NAHI JO KHUD BUGHZ-E-RASOOL RAKTY HAIN, ALLAH TALA NEY FARMAYA AYE LOGON TUM RASOOL KO ASY NA POKARO JESY TUM APNY DOSTON KO PUKARTY HO, TUM IN SE AGY NA BARHANA ( KHOA WO KSI BHI MAMLY MAI HO)TO AB ITERAZ KARNY WALO APNI TARIQH DEKHO OPR BOLO KO SA HAQ KA RASTA HAI OR KON SA KUFR KA, ATRAZ KARNA ASAN HAI USY SABIT KARNA MUSHQIL HAI OR SABIT WOHI KARSAKTA HAI JO HAQ PE HAIN…………………….
July 20, 2008 at 10:43 am
How is unity possible? In my opinion, by avoiding unnecessary confrontation here specifically and by forgiveness in general. Firstly the Dr has publicly and expressly apologized for his statement, I urge you to have a look. I don’t fall for imitators and believe myself to be a good assessor of the character of people and this man, Dr Israr, seems to me nothing more than an honest servant of Allah Tabarik wa ta’aala who is trying in his earnest to do only that which is good and Islamic. A man of his stature doing so in public is not easy and it speaks for the Dr’s guileless intentions. Yet I will understand and agree if you say that it isn’t sufficient. But neither was the excuse of the sahaaba who did not lie to the Prophet when he asked them why they did not join the Muslim army in the ghazwa/battle. And still, as you and I both know very well, Rahmaan Himself pardoned them (though after a period of time) for He is the Rahim and He loves to forgive, ordered His last and honored prophet Hazrat Muhammad to forgive, and Muhammad (pbuh) in turn ordered the Muslimeen to follow his example, or (I paraphrase here since I don’t remember the exact words): If someone inflicts harm on you, you have the right to avenge yourself but if you forgive then it is better for you and Allah is the best of judges and He loves forgiveness. As an afterthought, I do not consider the mainstream Shia a “sect” of Islam. They are only Muslims to me who, as I see it, hold different views regarding commandments and other matters of Islam so I leave judging them to Allah alone as can only be done.
I strongly disagree with your opinion on Dr Israr being aware of creating controversy in the Muslim community by harming the sentiments of the Shia community at large, and of the Sunni community to some extent as well. If he had such intentions then I seriously doubt he would have written pamphlets and other material urging the importance of Sunni-Shia unity and understanding. Those specific writings of his have been, as I’ve heard, endorsed and distributed by a prominent Shia scholar whose name escapes me at the time. Most of his public speeches concern Islamic matters while giving a comprehensive overview of Islamic orders concerning the establishment of Deen al Haqq. I have never heard him either portray or even mention Muslims of Shia beliefs in any negative connotations. I’m assuming that the fact, which you just mentioned, regarding the infallability of the Prophet as well as the Ahl al Bayt is the root of the grief expressed here. Sunni individuals, as far as I know, only hold the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to be entirely innocent by the Grace of Allah and not anyone else. But this is one of those things that we must compromise on if we are to achieve success here and in the hereafter. I think personal beliefs such as these must be left for Allah alone to judge when the major tenants of Islam are intact and not altered. Either way, the Dr’s lecture was clearly not to focus on Hazrat Ali’s incompetence (naoozubillah) or anything of the sort. He was, as I perceived it, simply supporting his statements of the lecture in enhancing the audience’s views regarding the matter of the gradual submission of the Sahaaba to the complete Islam, i.e, the fact that things were gradually made farz on the sahaaba such as not having more than four wives, paying zakaat, offering sadqa, establishing deen, the abstention of haraam, farz of hajj, etc.
As for the Fitna film and the Western objections of Hazrat Muhammad’s character, I am apalled that you would couple Dr Israr’s statements, as hurtful as they may be to you or other brothers, with the absolutely disgusting and baseless comments of Western enemies of Islam. Do you honestly perceive the man as attempting to assassinate the character of Hazrat Ali? Thousands like him cannot do so but he is not even trying here. His focus was on making something else clear to his audience through that hadith and not to hurt anyone as is made apparent by the circumstance and context of the speech. I am lost as to why my other brothers do not, or will not, see it. I agree with you but an aalim or scholar in the sense it is used in our Muslim communities of Pak-o-Hind, refers to a formal Muslim scholar who has been under the supervision of and and has graduated/attended an accredited Muslim school. Though is not a scholar in the official sense as he himself declares in many of his speeches before his audience, he is, in my opinion due to what he preaches and says, a highly learned man. Nothing I’ve heard from him has ever given me the impression that he is incapable or incompetent in religious matters.
Here is another quotation of the verse you referenced to: “When the Tathir verse (33:33) was revealed in her house. At that time, `Ali, Fatimah, Hasan, and Husayn were in her house. Muhammad spread his cloak over them and stated ‘These are the members of my Household, and Allah has purified them of all (sins and faults and uncleanness).’” The source is the same as yours but apparently differently phrased. Either way, the prophet also said in response to numerous queries by sahaaba who were new to Islam, that their previous sins were indeed forgiven entirely by Allah’s Grace. If we are to be technical here, then the word “has purified” implies purification which was not since birth but might have been after they accepted Islam. Either way, I’m no expert and these are mere conjectures of mine simply to make the point that one cannot, at least I cannot, point to Hadith like this and come forward with resolute conclusions regarding the content. I’d like to say here that I personally do not concern myself with the infallability of the Ahl al Bayt since neither mine nor yours, for that matter, eternal salvation is dependent upon deciding on this issue. I do, however, understand your concern since the foundation of a building must be strong in order for anything sturdy to be built upon it but I sincerely believe this to be just one of Shaytaan’s tools to sow dissent and he succeeds marvelously due to Muslim’s general tendency to not be attentive to the big picture.
I have read the last sentence of the 33rd verse of Surah Ahzaab and as I understand it, the statement of Allah Ta’aalaa comes after His command to the prophet’s (pbuh) wives to stay chaste and gives them blessings of Heavenly reward. The word “yureedu” in the part of the aya that you quoted apparently also means to “wish”. Depends on what you choose but, regardless, here Allah is giving the reason for the commands that He has mentioned immediately before this last section of the ayat. It is not a declaration but a statement.
As for your last comment, it was truly unfortunate for Dr Israr to quote the hadith in question but we must not ignore facts here when we attempt to analyze the comments. Again I would hope that you would not couple Dr Israr with anti-Islam individuals of the West because a Muslim cannot be compared to those who are outright rejecting of the faith. As a final thought, please understand that this entire reply of mine is in no way an attempt to discredit you or your opinion, nor am I attempting to agonize you. It is only to state what I think about the matter and my perception of it and try to get you to understand why I see things this way. This is all I have to say on this so this will be my final post.
Assaalaam-u-alaikum wa alainaa wa alaa ibaad Allah hisSaliheen.
July 20, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Salamalykum,
Once more thanks Mazhar Husseini for detail reply. I personally do not give importance to person when i discuss on islam. I do not know Dr israr but by your all the mails i concluded, he is not an Aalim or islamic research scholar but only a orater..
It is not good for any orater to speak on islamic history or explaon tafseer of quran. In fact explaoning tafseer of quran is a duty of an Aalim only.
As you said Dr has publicly and expressly apologized for his statement. I have not read any such statement and if you have copy plz forward it to me. But i believe on your words and if he think it was his mistake and in future he will take precaution then we all must forgive him and you can see in our post we also demanded him to tenders an unconditional apology to muslim ummah.
So i request you to support us by forwarding his apology letter so we can publish it here in the same post..
Unity is possible among muslim umma by avoiding unnecessary confrontation everywhere and also by forgiving.
It is our (muslims) bad luck that eveerybody knows we are divided in 73 sects but very few knows jews also divided in 72 sects..THEY ARE UNITED EVEN AFTER HAVING SO MANY DIFFERENCES BUT WE ARE BUSY IN HURTING EACH OTHERS SENTIMENTS. WHY?
Bro. just see what is difference in shia or sunni or wahabi,maliki, hanafi and shafai..? We all having 98% similarities but always our oraters, ignorant leaders, try to impress their followers by discussing and concentrating on disputed issues, Hadith, tafseer, events. Why they do not concentrate on 98% similarities?
We all even our kids who have less knowledge of islam knows …shia bealieve that hazrat Ali (a.s) is their first imam and wasee of holy prophet(s.a.w) and all muslim knows shia believe in infallibility of the Prophets and ahlulbayt(a,s) shia also believe father of Hazrat Ali (a.s) and guardian of Holy Prophet(s.a.w) was a muslim.
How can you say Dr.Israr was not aware of all these facts? That fact is he intentionally presented that zaeef ,disputed and by some fabrivated hadith of tirmizee.
His all such disputed works are not new and so many times discussed by Muslim ulama and so many rejected and some supported and no one thought to insult Dr israr but when he started to speak his controversial researches from open plateform then muslim world started to protest.
Listen this also. Alama Hafiz Muhammad Ashraf Qadri, Alama Speaks on the Authenticity of the Hadith of Tirmizi
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMMdQG2FkU
and also see what Dr. Tairul qadri says:
http://deenislam.com/islam/splay.php?id=697
Full 11 hour lecture of Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri rejecting the comments by Israr Ahmed.
http://www.minhaj.co.uk/index.php?controller=product&path=24&product_id=104
You can see so many views and research on the same issue by shia and sunni ulema both.
It is duty of our scholars including Dr israr , not to waste time in presenting disputed hadith or disputed issues. If really they want islamic unity..
First Dr zakir nair then now This Dr Israr..The result of both statement is ..Dispute among muslims..
Its is sufficient for muslims to know that consuming alcohal is prohibited in islam ref verse of Surah Nisa.
We all muslims pray salat and consider ourselve slave of allah subhan o tala and we all do every thing to please Allah only and dream about jannah. In short we all think we are on right path. Do you not think it is sufficient for us to consider all muslims our brother?
But we feed our kids. no we are maliki, we are shia, we are hanafi..we differ to each other. They are wrong, they are munafiqs, they are kafir…without thinking all such way of blaming other muslim is also prohiobited in islam.
Dr zakir nair comes and praise certified batil like yazeed then Dr israr comes and try to assassinate the character of Hazrat Ali?
Ask him what he knows about Prophet issa, Mooses, ibarahim and wine. If there is any detail awailable in history.. ?
No people like Dr israr always do research on disputed issues…why?
Every day new scholars are coming with new disputed researches and all give ref of hadith..
Do you not think there are lots of disputed hadith available in bukhari and tirmizee? do you follow all the hadith? NO. WHY?
For ex i am giving one simple hadith which support practice of shia..
In Saheeh Muslim – which is considered by Sunnis, along with Saheeh Bukhari, as most authentic books after Quran – In the Chapter, of (combining two Prayers)
Ibn Abbas said – that the Prophet (S.A.W.) prayed Zohr and Asr in Medina together without any cause for fear and without travelling. Then Ibn Abbas was asked: Why the Prophet did that. He replied: – He did not want anybody from his Ummah to face difficulty.
YOU can see majority of sunni are against this practice. WHY?
It confirms just giving ref of any hadith book for any hadith is not sufficient.
You also raised few questions ie hadith e kissa 33.33 ect.. seoerately we can discuss if you want to know the truth.
I hope br. you will also concentrate more on muslim unity and will not support those scholars who speak on disputed issues and hurt other muslims..
ws
July 20, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Dr Israr Exposed, By Hazrat Alama Hafiz Muhammad Ashraf Qadri Sahib, Alama Sahib Speaks on the Authenticity of the Hadith of Tirmizi Shareef He used:
Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMMdQG2FkU
Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOEXFOzWQhA
July 21, 2008 at 12:55 pm
ASSALAMOALAIKUM:I read all the comments given by my brothers and sisters about Dr Israr Ahmed.I personally have no idea about what he say but i guess from all these comments that he say very wrong about HAZARAT ALI(RA) and i strongly protest on his comments,and one thing more i want to say to Shias that as you people are giving respect to HAZARAT ALI(RA) the same respect give to all the SAHABAS(RA).
July 27, 2008 at 12:02 am
Dr.Israr Use abuse language about Hazrat Ali(k.a.w) on QTV program on 7th Jamadi-us-Sani 12 June 2008
Dr.Anita Rai blasts Blasphemous Dr.Israr
Dr.Israr Ahmed (LANAT-ALLAH!)
“(Remember) the day when We will call every people with their Imam…” Quran 17:71
On the Day of ULTIMATE Reckoning all of creation will be summoned with
their respective Imams.
Our Prophet MUHAMMAD-E-MUSTAFA (peace upon him and his pure progeny)
has introduced our IMAM to us and identified the SHAJRA-E-TAYYIBA for us. As a result of the immeasurable mercy of Rasoolallah (saw) we have come to know our IMAM, with the declaration of whose Wilayat, DEEN-e-KHUDA-O-MUSTAFA has culminated in perfection of FAITH and
completion of GRACE (nemat) upon all creation.
We are infinitely indebted to RASOOLALLAH(SAW) for this as both the
Sunni and the Shia report his profound hadith: “One who dies without
knowing (marafat) his/her IMAM dies in a state of absolute ignorance
(jahiliya).”
Oh! Dr. of Blasphemy, in Islam, dying as a jahil is equivalent to
dying as a kafir.
Your sinful statement about IMAM-E-AWWAL ALI IBN ABI TALIB(AS) has
shown everyone THE CONDITION YOU ARE GOING TO DIE IN!!
None in his/her right mind believes in such garbage from Tirmidhi when
the same Tirmidhi narrates from Anas that the Prophet said (astagfar):
“The believer in Paradise will be given such and such strength for
sexual intercourse.” He was asked, “O Messenger of Allah, will he
really be able to do that?” He said, “He will be given the strength of
one hundred (men).” Sunan al-Tirmidhi hadith #2459
Tirmidhi, was an ardent student of the (bukhar) fever-ridden brains of
Bukhari, who happily reports that ‘Aisha has narrated: “The Prophet
and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub.
During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn
below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to
bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my
periods (menses).” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, hadith no.
29
Dr. Israar, the trash you have puked in your inexcusably audacious
remarks, have also proved beyond doubt who are your Imams(la).
Subhan-Allah, how wonderfully the Quran hammers it, when it announces:
“And We made them Imams who call to the fire, and on the day of
resurrection they shall not be assisted. And We caused a curse to
follow them in this world, and on the day of resurrection they shall
be of those made to appear hideous.” 28: 41- 42
Your Imams(la) are the rogues who conspired in and partook of, the
crimes at Saqifa Banu Saida. Your spiritual masters(la), despite being
the fathers-in-law of Rasoolallah ignored and left his corpse and ran
to Saqifa to stab the covenant they had made with their Prophet at its
back; it must also be noted that they ran with the same speed with
which they fled the Battle-fields of Ohud and Hunain deserting their
Prophet! Your Imams(la) are the bastards from Shajra-e-Khabisa(la) who
murdered the 11 MOSAIC PRINCES from the PURE PROGENY of MUHAMMAD(SA),
- the IMMACULATE IMAMS(as), ignorance of and disobedience to, whom
adds up to kufr!! Your Imams(la) are the original terrorists who set
fire to the Door of the HER HOLINESS(SA) LADY OF LIGHT FATIMA, killed
her and her baby, Mohsin(AS). These are the ones who slaughtered the
family of OUR PROPHET in Karbala and imprisoned the members of the
HOLY HOUSE. Your ideological siblings, Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar
and Zarqawi, etc. are wrecking havoc on the civilized world as they
unleash the terrorism they have learnt so well from your ancestors,
Abu Bakr, Umar son of Zahhak the whore, Uthman, Abu Sufian, Muawiya,
Yazid and their progeny [God's curse on them].
Shah Abdul Aziz says in pg. 263 of Tohfa Ithna Ashariya:
“What opinion should we have of those who express joy on Ashura when
IMAM HUSSAIN was killed; those who marry on that day; those who show
disrespect for the family of the Prophet and children of Syeda Fatima?
It is correct to categorise any such person as a MURATAD.”
You got your children married on Ashura. What better can be expected
from such a MURTAD as you?
The truth regarding your birth is reflected in RASOOLALLAH’s(saw)
hadith, which LADY ZAINAB(SA) recited in the court of Ibn Ziyad(la):
“My grandfather(saw) has said: ‘Enmity and malice (bogz) of Ali(as) is
forever carved on the foreheads of aulaade-e-zina, the illegitimate
born’.”
In his last words to Ali and Fatima, the Prophet of Islam had
denounced fourteen men and invoked the curse of God upon them: “O
Allah! I denounce them all: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Talha, Abdul
Rehman ibn Awf, Sad bin Abi Waqqas, Abu Ubayda Jarraah, Muawiya ibn
Abu Sufyan, Amr bin Aas, Abu Musa Ashari, Mughirah ibn Shobah, Aws ibn
Hadthan, Abu Hurayra and Abu Talha” The fancy drinking party you have
quoted from Tirmidhi Sharif is supposed to have taken place in the
house of Abdul Rehman ibn Awf! Is it a coincidence?
Dr. of Apostasy, you are a disgustingly sick man, for whom the roaring
fires are eagerly waiting!
GOD’S CURSE UPON YOU AND YOUR SPIRITUAL BRETHREN. AMEN.
DR. ANITA RAI
LONDON
August 18, 2008 at 11:47 am
in reply to the disgusting comments by so called Dr Anita Rai which amount to blasphemy and kuffar with reference to her hatred for the Prophet’s blessed companions including the Khulfa e Rahideen, May Allah and his Prophet CURSE you for your hatred of those loved by Allah and his Prophet.
The reference you gave wherein the Blessed Prophet allegedly cursed his own companions is even more unreliable than the one relied upon by Dr Israr Ahmed,this along with many countless others attributed to the Prophet or the Imams have been fabricated by the blasphemous Shia to lend credence to their God Cursed satan inspired beliefs which were introduced by Abdulla Ibn Sabah the Jew.
In her denunciation of Dr Israr Ahmed Dr Anita Rai from the poison in her heart commits even greater blasphemy,May Allah protect us from the ignorant especially those carrying the title of a ‘DR’.
By seemingly trying to justify the infallibility of Imam Ali (A.S.) she and her ilk actually cast apersions on the infallibility of the Prophet and Imam Ali,did the Prophet who kept such confidantes and companioins even marrying their daughters (of Hazrats Abu Bakr (ra) AND Omar and giving in marriage Two of his own daughters to Hazrat Uthman not know of their true character and why did Imam Ali give BAYAH to Hazrats Abu Bakr,OMAR and Uthman and name his sons after them? My final advice to Dr Anita Rai before it is too late give REASON a chance and turn to Allah’s DEEN ,ISLAM for the one you are following is anything BUT Islam,
Naweed
September 22, 2008 at 3:58 am
no doubt that dr israr has been found so many times talking about shiaan e ALI and is dte hard against the shias.i strongly condemn his lectures on qtv n should be stopped imed y others like dr zakir,dr tahir ul qadri etc are not controvertal but heis always facing such controversies.
November 6, 2008 at 12:22 pm
This is not true..You are all ignorant as Dr Israr is learned man and he read this all before he spoke.
He never made up any thing from himself.Please people open your minds and think outsdie the box. Suhaba were also human beings and not saints.Dr Israr speech does not give any indication of disgrace towards Ali(ra).
This is the main problem with us and all pakistani people.They dont know about Quran and hadeeth and just talk like monkeys. Come on people..read some books.
Thnak you
November 6, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Dear Sir,
I am giving you Hadith with ref in which it is confirmed when the this verse reveled Surely Allah wants to kep away from you all impurities O` Ahlul Bayt, and purify you best purifying). 33:33
Those who are trying to challenge This verse of quran are agents of iblees. so dear read more Hadith before defending Iblees.
ws
Read this:
The prophet (SAWA) ordered all Muslims to keep following Quran, and Ahlul Bayt, so that they will never go astray if they keep following both of them. (Saheeh Muslim vol.4 p.1874,Sunan Al-Tirmithi vol.5 p.662,Munad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal vol.3 p.14,and many other sources.
From Aeysha, daughter of Abu Bakr,and a wife of the Prophet, that the Prophet (SAWA) had a black cover under which he put Hasan and Hussain, and Fatema, and Ali, then recited (Surely Allah wants to kep away from you all impurities O` Ahlul Bayt, and purify you best purifying). 33:33
This Hadeeth explains who are Ahlul Bayt (AS), and is narrated in : Saheeh Muslim vol.7, p130. And Mustadrak Al-Saheehayn by Al-Haakim Al-Neesabori vol.3, p. 147. And Al-Sunan Al-Kubra by Al-Bayhaqi vol.2, p. 149. And Tafseer Al-Tabari vol. 22, p. 5. And Tafseer Ibn Katheer vol.3, p.485. And Tafseer Al-Durr Al-Manthoor by Al-Soyooti vol.5, p. 198 & 199.
From Um Salamah,a wife of the prophet(SAWA) that when the verse ( Surely Allah wants to keep away from you O`Ahlul Bayt all impurities, and purify you best purifying) was revealed, then the Prophet (SAWA) called Ali, Fatema, Hasan, and Hussain, and covered them with a cover and said (O`Allah these are my Ahlul Bayt…..).
This Hadeeth was narrated by Abu Sa`eed Al- Khidri fom Um Salamah, Tafseer Al-Tabari vol.22, p. 6. And Tafseer Al-Durr Al-Manthoor by Al-Soyooti vol.5, p. 198.
This Hadeeth shows that even the wives of the Prophet (SAWA) were not included in (Ahlul Bayt) as Um Salamah wished to be included and that Ali(as) was part of Ahl al bait(AS), but was told by the Prophet (SAWA):- You be at your place, and you are on good.
You may refer to find some of these Hadeeths to:- Al-Sunan Al-Kubra by Al-Bayhaqi ; vol. 2, p. 150, Tafseer Ibn Katheer; vol. 3, p. 483. Al-Durr Al-Manthoor by Al-Sayooti; vol.5, p.198. Al-Mustadrak by Al-Hakim Al-Nisabori; vol. 2, p. 416. Tareekh Baghdad by Al-Khateeb Al-Baghdadi; vol. 9, p. 126. Tafseer Al- Tha`alibi; vol.1 , p. 334. Saheeh Al-Tirmithi; vol. 13, p. 248 &249. Musnad Ahmad Bin Hanbal; vol.6, p. 292. And Tahtheeb Al-Tahtheeb; vol. 2, p. 297.
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S.M.MAsoom
December 9, 2008 at 3:00 am
SALAM EVERY ONE. ME NE SAB BHAION K MSGES PARHE AUR BARA DUKH HUA UN LOGON KO SUN K JO DR ISRAR KO APPRECIATE KAR RAHE HE UN KI IS STUPID HARKAT PE.PAR KASOOR IN LOGON KA NAHI HE KION K IN KA TALUK UN AUR SHAJRA UN SE MILTA HE JO ALLAH K AKHRI NABI HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (S.A.W.W) K DUSHMAN THEY.APNEY AP KO MUSLIM BOLTEY HAIN PAR SHARAM ATI HE IN MUSLMANOON PE.BIBI SYEDA (A.S) PE DARWAZA GIRANEY WALEY KI BARABARI HAZRAT ALI (A.S) SE KARTEY HAIN.AUR KEHTEY HEIN K SHIA KAFIR.SAB NE APNI APNI KABAR ME JANA HE HISSAB APNA APNA HONA HE IS LEAY JIN KI AQLON PE TALEY HAIN WO NAHI TUT SAKTEY AIK SHER KAHU GA.
YA ALI (a.s) AP KA NAM ACHA LAGTA HE
AP KI NISBAT SE ISLAM ACHA LAGTA HE
LOG KEHTEY HAIN KAFIR AP KE ISHQ ME
AP K ISHQ ME YE ILZAM ACHA LAGTA HE
AP SAB BHAION SE GUZARISH HE K ISLAM AUR KURAN KO SAMJHAIN AUR PHIR IS K BARE MAIN BAAT KARE.BAJAEY FITNA PHELANEY K AMAN KAIM KARE HUM MUSLIMS KO WESE WORLD ME BOHAT PROBLEM FACE KARNI PAR RAHI HEIN IN KO MINIMIZE KARE NA K APNEY AP KO AUR BADNAM KARE.ALLAH HAFIZ
December 26, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Hi brothers and sisters
Dr Israar Ahmed may have made a mistake. you are all coming on him so strongly, after all he is also one of our muslim brothers we should sort this matter in a cool and nice way not by spatting at him and so strongly accusing him. the western world is making fun of Islam, our prophet etc is that not more of an issue than coming so strongly on a muslim brother who although he – if he said this – shouldn’t have said but he has given some wonderful lectures about Islam what about that all of you who are criticising him now – have you got the ability to give such knowlegable lectures or even spend 5 minutes spreading Islamic knowledge to people! I bet not because only such people so jump at the first mistake a human being makes and just loves accusing him. wow to you all for accusing a muslim brother! what if he was your own brother you would have quieten this issue down and quitely explained him about the mistake he has made – Allah does not like hypocrites REMEMBER!
January 15, 2009 at 9:27 pm
aslam e elkum
Alhamdullah v have still good people in pakistan like Moulana Tariq Jameel ,DR Israr Ahmed this site is made by a shia thats y u all ppl r saying ths to him u ppl wanted to convince us tht the father of Hazrat Ali was muslim but he was nt ur justifications is tottaly wrong u ppl r against dr israr ahmed coz he did his son,s marriage on 10th muharram it does nt matter the all family of our holy prophet(saw) is holy for us but no month n no day is bad i ll merry my son on 9th r 10th muharram u ppl r dng shirk by saying mola ali or ya abbas (nawozbillah) dr israr ahmed is a grt scholar aur ap ky kuch kehny sy un ko koi farak nahi pary ga coz he never say any1 bad u say him coz u r bad
n i wana tell u 1 more thng if ALLAH give me another son tau may us ka nam AMEER MAWIA rakhon ge coz he was the great hero of islam
January 22, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I have been watching Israr’s speeches for over 6 years. Sorry, I have lost my respect for this hypocrat who comes on Peace TV. I remember him saying at one time that Qadianis are ‘Wajibul Qatl’. I am not a Qadiani, but I think if there is any who is ‘Wajibul Qatl’, it is this Israr.
February 2, 2009 at 12:36 am
SALAM BROTHERS AND SISTERS .THIS IS THE FACT FIRST WE KNOW ABOUT DR ISRAR AHMAD.HE IS A GREAT SCOLAR.BEFORE CRITICISE WE MUST HAVE KNOWLEDGE.THIS IS SHIAS CRITISM.IF WE KNOW ABOUT HISTORY OF ISLAM , WE NEVER CRITISE DR. ISRAR AHMAD.THIS IS SHIAS PROPAGANDA.IF YOU KNOW DR ISRAR AHMD HOW HE IS LIVING.I NEVER SEE ANY SCOLAR LIKE DR ISRAR AHMAD.STILL HE IS STAYING ONLY ONE ROOM HOUSE WITH HIS WIFE.
February 7, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Aslam_o_alikum
February 7, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Aslam_o_alikum
main last 7years se mohtarat D.israr Ahmad ko janta hu aur mere nazdeek un par shiya hazrat ki taraf se lagay gay tumam ilzam jhootay hain kyoun k un ka apna kehna hai k Hazrat Ali R.A aur ahlay beyt ki mohabt imaan ka hissa hai baqi rahay shiya hazrat tu un ka farz tha k is baat par ilmi behs kartay na k apna katar aur jahilana pan ka saboot detay Allah un ko hadayat de ammmin
February 13, 2009 at 8:26 am
hee is a great looser and a haram ka bacha
and too mr imran khan
AAP JAHILOO KI SOHBAT MAIN 7 SAAL SAY HAIN TAB HII AAP NAY YAH REPLY KIA HAI BUT LEMME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR K SIRF HIA HI NAHI SUNNI ULAMA NAY BHI US KOO GHALAT KAHA HAI AUR WOOOO HAMESHA GHALAT RAHAY GA AUR US KI NASALAIN GATAR MAIN PAIDA HOON GII INSHALLAH
September 25, 2009 at 4:55 pm
TERI MA KI……….Sale tu aur teri all aulad gatar mai mare
February 13, 2009 at 9:04 am
I read all commits form Muslims and Yazidies, and want to say to Mrs Shahid that either using name Mavia for his unidentified son, she can use Mavia son name ,, YAZID for his son.??? is it ok or not?
Ameer Mavia and his son must be proud on you to being you with his family in hell.
May God keep us safe from Yazidies and dusmanae ahale-bait.
February 15, 2009 at 11:55 am
allah hum sub per apna fazal fermai wagarna hum jis level k musliman aor insaan han jews hindus aor christians ne sumuj liya ha aor humari khater tawazu bhee khoob kr rhe han>
February 15, 2009 at 12:12 pm
dr israr ahmed peace tv pr atey han.jinko ehtraz ha bjai rude aor emotional hona k un se ilmi dialogue kren.un ka kitabcha misl-e-eese hazrat ali ra zaroor parh lain.dr.sb ne ak hawala quote kia ha.hawala quote krne pr koi banda itna bura nhn ho jata k hum apne hosh hwas gum kr bethen aor jo moohn man aie buk dan ta k doosray ko pata chale k hum is ikhlaq aor kirdar k malik han.(request) sare log muj se hazar guna behtar han.man maula ali ka guda hun sydna husain ke yad mera dil ke thandak ha. yazeed aor un qabron pr laanat jinhon ne mera hussain shaheed kia.
February 15, 2009 at 12:32 pm
shia kafir han swad e azam ehle sunnat ka mutafiqa fatwa ha
February 18, 2009 at 10:24 am
We muslim umma over react with such type of bogus comments given by any muslim scholar and make a hue & cry situation and forget our farz(Duties)and spend most of our time and enrgy with such type of issue.
February 20, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I am unable to understand that shia brothers are objecting what? Dr Israr or Hadees? If he has qouted an hadees then he should be asked to give the reference of book and if he gives it then you all people should apologise Dr Israr and if he fails, the whole nation is with you people. I think it is not strange to know that some companion of Holy Prophet (peace be upon Him) was using alcohal before its prohibition. I would request you all to please see SAHEE BUKHARI, KITAAB-UL-MUGHAZI, HADEES NO 1475 to comfort your self. Thanks
February 27, 2009 at 7:35 am
Assalam_o_Alaikum,
Dear brothers and sisters, time is not to segregate between Shias and Sunnis,please tyr to be rational and just peer that Dr,Israr ahmed had not make his statement arbitrary rather he had cited IBN_e_Kacer’s Tafseer which in its core,had always been one of the authentic source to interpret Quran and Hadith,so besides this to blame Dr,Israr Ahmed one must have to conduct proper research for evaluating that illusions cited by Dr.Israr Ahmed in support of his statement.and no doubt he is one of the greatest islamic erudite and orater, and sound scholar but he mentioned only what has been mentioned by our great predecesors like IBne Kacer etc.And above all,i persoanly beleive that a true muslim must possess his/her utmost love and affiliation with Propher(PBUH) and all his family and companions without any discriminity,thats the basic stipulation of being a Muslim.May Allah showed us right Path,
March 6, 2009 at 1:16 am
Most of the ignorant and mischevious people are out to defame respected israr saab,what he said must be rite because quran revealed in 23 yrs so prohibition of liquor must not have come by then ,thats why the said incident happened ,israr saab need not apologise even.
March 10, 2009 at 3:30 am
Tm logo ne Quran tu thek sa parha nahi kabhi.or itne bare Aalim ko bura bhala kehna suru kr diya.Hm log or tm (shia) kabhi ek nahi ho sakty hamari or tmhari Hadees ki kitabain hi alag hain na tm kabhi hamri rawayat ko mano gy na hm kabhi tmhari Hadeesoo ko manin gain is liya ek hone ki baat tu sab sa pehly khatam kar doo.or dosri baat Dr.Israr ne ref diya tha.or unhoon ne koi shan me ghustakhi nahi ki thi jo kitaboo me tha wo bayan kiya tha.Lakin tm jo apni Mehfiloo me khalifa Awal doum or teesry khaleefa ki shaan me ghustaki karty ho or na hi tm logo ka pas us ka koi theek ref hai…….
yr ye sab baatain choro apne Aalim sa pouchna ka Quraan me saaf saaf hai ka Nabi ki azwaaj tmhari maain hain tu tm log tu Hazart Aysha(RAN) ki shaan me ghustaki karne sa baaz nahi aaty sirf is waja sa ka wo Hazart Abu Baker(RAN) ki beeti thi ya bolty hoo jaag e jamal ki waja hai us ka peechy…jao pehly ja kr theek taarikh parhoo……
Ek hone ki baat jarty hoon pehly apne Gireban me jhankoo….
March 31, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Assalamo alaikum
Narrated Abu Dhar: That he heard the Prophet saying,
“if somebody accuses another of Fusuq (by calling him ‘Fasiq’ i.e. a wicked person) or accuses him of Kufr, such an accusation will revert to him (i.e. the accuser) if his companion (the accused) is innocent.”
(Sahi Bukhari : Book #73, Hadith #71)
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Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak: (who was one of the companions who gave the pledge of allegiance to the Prophet underneath the tree (Al-Hudaibiya)) Allah’s Apostle said,
……And if somebody curses a believer, then his sin will be as if he murdered him; And whoever accuses a believer of Kufr (disbelief), then it is as if he killed him.”
Assalamo alaikum
(Sahi Bukhari :Book #73, Hadith #73)
April 13, 2009 at 8:57 am
i will say that opposing of dr,israr ahmed is not right you should confirm it first then say anything
May 3, 2009 at 5:19 am
3rd May 2009
AOA:
I see that none of the Muslim sects of these days are on right path. Particularly some of the famous Ulema-e-Deen, because of their vast knowledge, have gone astray.
May Allah save them from being deviated!!
I, being an Ummati of SAW, can never utter any wrong to any Islamic Scholar. My duty is to act upon what is quite correct from Quraan and Hadith.
Wama Taufiquee Illa Billah!!
Your brother in Islam
May 6, 2009 at 10:56 am
u shia such a discusting and such a big mistake of ur mothers and fathers
how could u say that about dr.israr he is a man of honour
u non sence people i know u all shia a big liers a drinkers a gamblers dunya jahan k ganday napak log aik pak saaf scholar k baray main kuch ganda kahnay say pahle apnay giraban main jhank k dakho ho kia tum log main tum main say nahi hoon is leya i can believe on u in any cost ……..
who doctor israr ahmed jin ke baatoon say mujhay pata chala k dein kia hai kia galat kia sahi yah sab ham bachpan say jantay hain nahi jantay to deen ke barekyun ko jo yah sab janta hai hamain batata ha who koie galat bayan da he nahi sakta ……..
he is like my father
i can bear any thing against him so dont u sia nonsence dear to say any thing rong about him
tum logon ko acha nahi lagta ha na k koie dein ka paigham agay barhaee koie itna naik sunnih aik naik scholar jo tablegh karta ha tum usko to bura kaho gay he na magar yah maat samjhlana k tum kaho gay or sab manlain gay
tum kuch nahi hoo samjh gaya ab tum now go to hell
June 6, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Tumhe Pata hai tumhare Beloved Dr Israar Ke Bare mein Latest Chat Patti Karaari Gossip.
Is dafa jo Hajj Hua tha wahan par Bolly Wood ki Actress (Double K) bhi Pohnchi hui thi. Us ka Israar ke saath bohot arse se affair chal raha tha aur wo usi ke paison se Hajj par gai thi is Dafaa. Better beleive is because it is true. Besides there is a pschycollogical problemn with her i.e. she has a prefference for much older men therfore stupid guys like Israar.
Well you also said that he is like your father then in that case would you give him liberties to do with you as he pleases. the truth of the matter is he is just nothing but the worst & Trashiest Kind of Dangerous stranger. No different from those who facilitata in hooking others to dangerous substances. By the way would you allow him to abuse you?
May 8, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Dear ehle tashee bhaiyo!
Hazarat Ali hum sab ke lye kabile ehtram hain balke tamam sahaba karam hamare lye kabile ehtram hain aur aap ko sab ka ehtram karna chahye. jahan tak Dr. Israr Ahmed sahab ki statement ka sawal hai to wo waqya sharab ki hurmat se pehle ka hai aur aap ko ye maloom hona chahye ke sirf prophits hi masoom the jinse koi gunah nahi huwa aur Hazrat Ali Razi Allah tala Anho nabi nahi the aur ho sakta hai unse ye gunnah sarzad ho gaya ho halanke hum isko gunnah nahi samjhte kynke ye waqya sharab hi hurmat se pehle ka hai.
agar aap log muslman hain to islam ke mutabik chalen. aur ye jo poster per khadri khatoon hain. is ke bare me sochen ke kya ye theek baat hai.
Dr. Israr Ahmed sahab ka gunnah shayad ye hai ke wo quran ke bataye raste per chal rahe hain jo rasta aap logon ne chor dya hai aur gumrah ho gaye hain.
Allah app ko hadayat de
May 19, 2009 at 7:54 am
salam to all….
according to history dr israr ahmed ne bilkol sahi bola hai… islam se phlay sab hee woo kam kartay thay joo islam kay baad mana howiay …. es may kisi ki guztakhi kha se agayee?
dr sahab ne ref. kay sath baat ki thee…. or wazahat bhi kardi hai…baat ka toor moor kar paish kia gaya ha shio ki taruf se….. ya khud kitna mantay hai Ali r.a. ko ? kia kia in ki kitabo may likha hai ali r.a. kay baray may …. zaban biyan nahi kar sakhti ….
May 30, 2009 at 2:50 pm
this is not the way to blame a really able and respected scholar.he has dare to talk what is truth.no matter what consequences will be? and I m sure he has not quoted the wrong hadith or refrence because he is a relaible scholar.the people who are angry on Dr.Israr Ahmed are because of two reasons. 1.they are ahle tashaee 2.they dont want to listen any bad thing about the great person hazrat Ali (r.a.a). I m also shia but I have no objection on his statement because I know that he is an authentic person.so be careful in ur behavior against a respected scholar.by doing that u are making a biggest sin.
May 30, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Let Dr. Israr, he is highly foolish and Taliban,
Let speak about Hazrat Ali (A.s.)
The world is exist becuse of Ali, Ali was ever, Ali is ever and Ali will be ever.
Ali can destroy this world within a minutes and Ali can make this world within a minutes
HAQ ALI, HAQ ALI, YA ALI YA ALI
May 30, 2009 at 7:10 pm
shia salay jo moon mein ata ha baktay hain yeh khud jab doosray sahaba karam ko galian detay hain jab to in key khilaf koi awaz nahi uthata aur dr israr ahmed sahab ney to ik waqai beyan kiya hai wo bhi sharab ki hurmat sey pehla ka to is per yeh kutay itna uchal rai hain
June 1, 2009 at 7:14 am
guys thats our problem
we cant bear anybody who disagree with us. If Dr. Israr said something with reference (whcih he apoligised later) we shud debate him (with respect as he much older and respectable than at least myself). if he has said something, that doesnt mean that he has become murtid. he is more knowledgable than any of us here. wht we can do is, we can disagree but dont lose rescpect. difference of opinion shud be encouraged only then we can have better ideas and progress.
and please dont get abusive on the forum
regards
jk
June 1, 2009 at 9:57 am
Our duty is to defend Islam not the individual personalities. Every person here writing his own Amaal.
Those who Opposed hereDr israr’s statement against Hazrat Ali, infact defending Islam and Holy Quran.
“And stay in your houses and do not display your finery like the displaying of the ignorance of yore; and keep up prayer, and pay the poor-rate, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah only desires to keep away the uncleanness from you, O People of the House (Ahlul’bayt)! and to purify you a thorough purification.” (33:33)
2) Those here Defendinf Dr Israr , defending this personality only not the islam and at the same time challenging Holy Quran(verse 33:33(.
ws
June 1, 2009 at 9:58 am
June 2, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Hi;
I am not a belong to Shia sect, but i am totally against Dr.Israr, who is layman and holding a little knowledge about Islam all you know well that a little knowledge is very very dangerous.
Hazrat Ali (A.S) who served his whole life for the Islam, with unmatched leadership during HIS whole like. How a layman dr. isarar comment on HIS LIFE. what are the realities and facts. Hazrat Ali (A.S) who served HIS whole life with PROPHET (PBUH). WO MOHAMMAD JO KHUDA KA NOOR HAY, HAQ HAY, HAMEESHA KAY LIYA HAY,
Mohammad (pbuh) kar Farman Sonow:
“May Ilum ka Shar Hoo oor ALI ous ka darwaza hay.
ALI haq hay barhaq hay
“Oh Ali awal bee tum aakhair bee tum, zahir beet tum, batin bee tum, Khuda ka noor bee tum”
Think your own mind do not look to dr. Israr.
Bye
June 12, 2009 at 3:58 am
Best reply by Mr Jamal Khan.
Thanks
June 19, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Assalamalaikum, May Allah bring you all people on right path
Dr. Israr Ahmed never abused Ali (RA) infact he is stating one of the rivayaats giving reference to Hadith from different scholars, Being a rational shia muslim, and a logical person i should tell to all those people who has spent so much time in writing against Dr. Israr they should spend some time to turn pages of Quran and read Sura Nisa and related hadith. The guy writing (Lanat Allah) against Dr. Israr Let me tell you if you spit on moon it falls back to you on your face.
July 7, 2009 at 6:16 am
Hey Dear r u Shia or any loyal agent of Dr Israar Ahmad
Any voice raise against Hazrat Ali (A.S) or any body spells any word against him cannot be left unpunished.
So all Muslim Community members who think they are on Imaan and wants that there Imaan survives should loudly say Lanat on Israar the parasite and Zakir the blood sucking bug.
June 28, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Assalam o Allakum.
We need no enemies.We will kill ourselves fighting like this.I never read Prophet taking revenge for personal reasons.I never read any of companions casting aspersions onto any one.Our religion teaches us peace unity and forgivenesss.Hazrat Ali R.A spared the life of a jew who spate on his face shortly before Shere Khuda was about to Kill him-because he could not kill any one for personal reasons.Our Prophet forgave the murderers of his dearest uncle. I am sure if Yazid would have been under the sword of Hazrat Imam Hussain R.A. and asked for forgiveness ,he would have been pardoned.If we love Prophet,his copmanions,his family we must love their virtues-patience and forgiveness.Humanity is not caught up in a war amongst Muslims and non muslims,Sunnis and Shias its a War of Satan against Allah.I dont want to comment who is wrong and who is right but I know Satan must be dancing with joy.How easily he suceeds in making us fight,
Oh Allah. only you can save us from satan. Please save us all from him and set us all on right path Ameen.
July 7, 2009 at 6:12 am
Salamun aleykum jamian
Dr Israr Ahmad’s quote on Hazrat Ali(A.S) was baseless and those points were just culminated from the satanic mind.If peoples like Israar Ahmad and Zakir Naik are there in the society they only spread hatred amongst Muslims.
So it’s my request to aal Muslim brothers plz do not listen to any speeches of Israar and Zakir they r just parasites of the community sucking blood of others they should be banned.I don’t wy peoples are calmly listening these rubbish speeches against Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and Hazrat Ali(A.S.) ,peoples should unite and raise voice against these creatures .
Akhiro wa dawana alhamdo lillaahe rabbil alemeen
July 7, 2009 at 6:24 am
kaise log hai jo kehte hai Israar ko kuch na kaho wo maze se keh sakta hai jo chahe aur ham apna ehtejaaj bhi nahi kar sakte aur usne unke bare me kaha hai jo Imaame awaal hai jo fatehe badr o hunain hai jo mushkil kusha hai jo massom hai aur massom se ghalti ka imkaan nahi ho sakta to unke bare me is tarah ke khayalaat agar Israar ke mann me hai to wo ek number ka shraab khor aur zina khor hai
July 19, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I think its high time both Shia’s and Sunnis resolve their disputes whatsoever and work towards creating peace and harmony among muslim ummah. Silly fights like this will just lead to enemity and hatred. Just the other day,I was discussing this issue with my sunni friend and I told her what if I fight with her regarding Ali’s (r.a) insults by this hadith.and by Dr. Israr .then she simply told me ..We sunnis never fight back regarding issues like this..because if we were to fight then this fight would have started long back when the shia’ sect was created during the time of Ali. We would have also fought for every single insults and irrespectful ways that the shias have used for all the great companions of the prophet. Show me one instance where a sunni muslim protested or cursed shia’s for insulting Abu bakr, Umar or Uthman..Never!!..We never curse like this. Its because we always have been patient as shias are muslims too and whatever wrong is done on both our parts ..Allah.s.a.w is always a witness to it and will judge us accordingly…I was just speechless because of her statement..May Allah guide us all.
July 24, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Go read your own saheeh bukhari and sahih muslim…Abu bakr doubted the prophethood of our prophet. Umer always doubted the prophethood but never as much as he did on Hudaibiya….it is in the saheehs.. Othman was one criminal despot.
You cell these three khulafa a rashideen….you are being blasphemous to Allah.
July 28, 2009 at 11:04 am
Aslam u alikum:
Dear people i’ve read all the comments given on a statement of Dr. Israr Ahmed. But I m realy sorry for all our thinkings.
Coz first of all we all have to take care of ourselves, from last 12 months v r debating about Dr. Israr bt excluding some of ours i m sure v’ve not fulfil our own Islamic duties v r not offering our prayers without diff. of shia and sunni is it right? I think v’ve no right to debate on Hazrat Ali, Hazrat Umar and All Sahaba e karam. v have to jst respect them all without difference of anyone.
when v’ll do right on our end then v’ll be able to comment to our Schaulars that wt they r saying and why?
So Plz try to be display yourself as a Good Muslim nor A Shia or A Sunni.
Pray to Allah for our Unity and and the Habit of Forgiveness. Like Hazrat Ali, Hazrat umar, and all other Sahaba. Wish u all Best of Luck.
I’ll request u all to offer u’r Prayers regularly till date and pray for us also.
July 31, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Peace of Allah be on Hazrat Ali ibne Abi Talib (as) as he is the only great personality who was born in ALLAH,S House (Kaaba) and shahadat also in ALLAH,S House (martyred in Masjide Kooofa in sajda of Namaz) which is the fazilat only he had among Muslim ummat .He is the Amirul Momineen and nobody is a match for him in terms of Taqwa, Ilm, Shujat, Sakhawat, Ibadat, balaghat…
His name is Ali which is name of Allah(swt) and no body can dare to oppose Hazrat Ali (as) or defame him .
If any body does jurat of opposing Ali (as) , he has given dawat to wrath of ALLAH (swt) and deserves same punishment which ALLAH (swt) gave to Haris bin Noman when he opposed Hazrat Ali (as) as mentioned in Qoran
in Surae Ma’arij ayat no 1 which starts as
” Saala saelun be azabin waqey.”
ALLAH (swt) has infact created Jehannum (Hell) for
enemies of Hazrat Ali (as) , so if Mr Israr wants to drink from Hauze Kausar, he must love Ali (as) and do zikr of Ali (as) by heart & tongue and also love his childrens Hazrat Hasan & Hazrat Husain (as) who are youths of paradise and instead of defaming Hazrat Ali (as) say fazail of Hazrat Ali (as) and give zeenat to his mehfil and prove himself to be a real muslim and true moballigh.
Allah’s Rasool (saw) has truly said , “Aliyun ma’al haqqun wal haqqun ma’al Ali .”
So, this is truth and Mr Israr, come on path of truth and leave path of Zaaalien.Hope this is enough for the truth is now manifested to you and is as clear as daylight .
Allah (swt) helps those who search for truth and clings to it .
August 2, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (s.a.w) said, “If all the trees becomes pens & all the water of rivers become inks , they could not count the ranks / fazilat of Hazrat Ali ibn e Abi Talib (a.s)
The Prophet (s) said, “Love for Ali (as) is faith, and hatred for Ali (as) is hypocrisy.
The Prophet (s) said, “Love for Ali (a) is a good deed, so don’t ruin it with bad deeds.” Al-Tabarani; Yanabi^ Al-Mawda, 2/3.
The Prophet (s) said, “Ali (a) holds the position of the Kaaba.” (Mustadrak Al-Sahihain)
The Prophet (s) said, “The first people to enter Paradise will be Ali and Fatima.”(as)
Rasool Allah (saw) said to Hazrat Ali (as) “O Ali , The Person who died & hate you is like he died as Jews or Christian .”
Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (saw) said ” If all the peoples are gathered with the love of Hazrat Ali ibn e Abi Talib (as) , Allah Subhanahu Taa la would not had created Hell.
Love of Ali Ibn e Abi Talib (as) eat sin’s (gunnah) as fire eat woods .
Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (saw)said , “O Ali ! if a person does Ibadat of Allah Tal’ ah as Hazrat Noah (as) lived in his peoples / nations & he has gold near about Mountain of Uhad & he spends in the way of Allah (swt) & & he does 1000 Hajj on foot & he dies mazloom shaheed between Safa & Marwa but O Ali ! if he does not have friendship/ your love in his heart & have hatred for you,
he will not smell scent of Paradise & nor he enters in it & in this situation meets Allah Tal’ ah , then Allah subhanahu Tal’ah will throw him in hell by the nose .
Holy Prophet (saw) said: “I and Ali are of one and the same light.”(Noor).
“O’ Ali thy flesh: is my flesh and thy blood is my blood”.
“O Ali! Thou art to me, as is a head to a body”.
“O Ali! Thou art to me, as is a soul to a body”.
The Messenger of Allah said to Hazrat Ali (as): “Protect yourself from your enemies who have a hatred in their hearts. Those who hate you, Allah (swt) has cursed such individuals”. Reference: Yanabi al Muwaddah p 135.
“Whoever wishes to see Adam in his knowledge, Noah in his piety, Abraham in his forbearance, Moses in his strength, and Jesus in his worship and devotion should look at Ali ibn Abi Talib.”(as).
Holy Prophet Mohammad Mustafa (saw) said “I am the chief of the Prophets and Ali ibn Abi Talib is the chief of Successors, and after me my successors shall be twelve, the first of them being Ali ibn Abi Talib(as) and the last of them being Al Mahdi.” (atfs)
“There will be twelve upright Imams for this nation. Those who try to disgrace them will not succeed; all of them shall be from the Quraysh.”
The person who reads the book where ranks / fazilat of Hazrat Ali (a.s) is written Allah Subhanahu Tal’ah will forgave his all sin’s Inshallah.
August 23, 2009 at 7:50 am
Dear Friends Salam. Iam a shaia Muslim and on behaf of all shaia community i appologise our suni brothers , for saying wrong Abt Dr Israr Ahmed . in my view Dr israr has not said anything wrong , he had jusst quoted hadees, i have listned his lecturer and beleave me the respect he has for all the four khulfai rashdeen especially for Ali(ra) no shai on earth today has that much respect. Iam really ashamed of my shai community and just want to tell them who have opened such wbsites close them down and stop writing such abusue language abt islamic scholars if we have learned scholars in shai community let the debate on this on the same TV channel . Islamic brotherhood can not be acheived untill Shai community comes out of jahalat.
August 23, 2009 at 8:16 pm
All of you are stupid and I am basing it on your statements coming out of your 21st century minds.
This daur is the daur of Inhitat of Muslims. Our beliefs and sensibilities have been heavily influenced by wrong philosophies so much so when an original and true message is brought to us, we BALK OFF and start blaming the source.
You guys are so pathetic that instead of patiently thinking about what Dr. Israr said, you went against him.
HE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING WRONG by merely stating a hadiths who he has NOT written. So, if you want to show your anger, show it to the narrator.
You guys are so misguided that instead of correcting yourself, you start questioning these great leaders of Islam who were MUCH and MUCH MORE PIOUS than your filthy selves. You guys are almost 2000 years away from Prophet. How can you claim that your understanding of Islam is NOT TAINTED by local cultures and other innovation in religion?
What is wrong with that Hadiths? Just because it shows Hazrat Ali drinking doesn’t mean that Hazrat Ali was not pious. Why? because muslims used to drink before it was prohibited. Just think with your rotten minds, Islam forbade things SLOWLY (in stages). There was a time when women were not observing purdah. Then purdah was enforced. There was a time when brothers married sisters and mothers (astaghfirullah). There was a time when people used to bury their baby girls alive. Hazrat Umar himself did it. All these sahabas were part of that pre-Islamic culture and engaged in it.
Allah(swt) then prohibited them slowly. After such prohibitions, they never went back to the wrong.
I request you not to make the mistakes of yahoodis who rejected Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) because they thought the Messiah will be from the children of Isreal from Hazrat Ishaq.
You guys are making the SAME mistake.
August 28, 2009 at 7:25 pm
your(shia) and our love to hazrat Ali is same like christian love to jesus and our love to jesus. We consider hazrat ali (r.a) as a pious sahaba who played a important role for the spread of islam and was chosen by Allah along with other sahaba to help prophet(peace be upon him).
you know what is one more achievement for the ummat of Mohammad(p.b.u.h)? It is that Allah has bestowed upon us such companions (r.a) along with the prophet mohammad(p.b.u.h) that were not there along with any other prophet. these companion were there for many purpose.
but before that please note that no companion who were there with the prophet(p.b.u.h) before the arrival of wahi were not taught islam. it was our prophet was forward them the msg of islam and these companion(be it Hazrat ali, hazrat abu bakar , bibi kadija) who were the first one to accept islam and then more and more companion came. now during this process many sahaba asked many question to understand islam and prophet (p.b.u.h) replied them and during this process many companions made mistakes, now that is the best part for which i am thankful to Allah. Becuase had these companions not made mistake our prophet (p.b.u.h) would not have corrected them and told them the other better alternative and then we the muslim ummah would not have learned about it. i hope you people are getting me.
for example there were many people who made a mistake and asked a question and their reply was sent directly by Allah. That is Allah honoured them with an ayat which is a big blessing.
so you should be thankful to Allah for blessings us with such pious companions(r.a.) who made mistake and Allah and his prophet corrected them for the betterment of all the mankind that has come since 1500 years and which will be coming till eternity.
has the companion would not have asked questions or would not have mistakes, Allah and his prophet(peace be upon would not have corrected them and we would have been stuck with big mistakes through out our lives.
i hope you people my point. rest Allah is best to guide and best to protect.
August 29, 2009 at 6:50 am
Respected Muhammad, Thanks for this post. First we do one big mistake when we discuss on islamic matters, by callink Muslims , shia or Sunni. We all are Muslims as we accepted what holy prophet(s.a.w) said.
Second i personally do not support your comparison of shia belief VS Jesus. There is a small disfference that shia accepted declaration of Holy prophet(s.a.w) and ghadeer e khum(18th of Dhu al-Hijjah of 10 AH ) and as a result considered Hazrat ali(a.s), their first Khalifa and Imam. Ahla e sunnat have dispute on declaration of ghadeer e khums and so many versions with so many meaning popular among them but summary of all is Holy prophet(s.a.w) never declared anybody his vasi, his hirer and as a result they accepted abubakr their first khalifa. you can read about ghadeer from these websites.
http://www.al-islam.org/ghadir/incident.htm and ahla e sunnat source http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/bookid/248/The%20Ghadir%20Declaration.html
It is also not cleared from your post who accepted Islam first. Janabe Khadija, hazrat abubaker or Hazrat Ali(as.). How can you consider all the three first? The correct list is as per historians is.
The first of all his (Muhammad’s) converts was his wife, Khadija; the second his first cousin Ali, whom he had adopted; the third his servant Zeyd, a former slave. (Introduction to the Translation of Holy Qur’an, Lahore, Pakistan, 1975)
The fourth witness who accepted Islam, was Abu Bakr, a merchant of Makkah. In the beginning, Muhammad preached Islam secretly for fear of arousing the hostility of the idolaters. He invited only those people to Islam who were known to him personally. It is said that through the efforts of Abu Bakr, the fourth Muslim, a few other Makkans also accepted Islam. Among them were Uthman bin Affan, a futurekhalifa of the Muslims; Talha, Zubayr, Abdur Rahman bin Auf, Saad bin Abi Waqqas, and Obaidullah ibn al-Jarrah.
Dear Muhammad you can see first are the family members including one servent them friends of Holy prophet(s.a.w) accepted Islam and it is natural also.
I am thinking why you presented wrong detail and i can see just to place hazrat abubaker equal to hazrat Ali(a.s), which confirmed you are ready to speak lie just to degratde hazrat ali(a.s).
See i am giving more respect to hazrat abubaker by telling the truth. he was the first muslim from the friends of Holy prophet(s.a.w) who accepted islam.
Is there any place of lie is islam? so who is near to christianity and jesus version. Ofcource who tells lie.
http://www.fatmiya.net/2009/08/hazrat-alias-first-muslim-who-accepted.html
ws
August 29, 2009 at 7:20 am
Unfortunately, the moderators deleted my very long response regarding this issue. I am a Sunni Muslim and I have a lot of respect for Shia brothers since the least I want is disunity among Muslims. But we as Muslims, need to think before we leap. Just because Dr. Israr said something which conflicts with your worldview, you don’t have to go to this extreme.
Dr. Israr only stated the hadiths. All our prophets and sahabas are innocent. The day Sahaba embraced Islam, all their previous sins were forgiven. If Hazrat Ali (ra) drank wine before prayers that does not lower his high stature since he did that before the prohibition so there is no sin on him. Islam did not outlaw everything in the first year. Remember Holy Quran was revealed over 23 years. As the sahaba received the injunctions they held fast to it till death. There was a time when Purdah was not farz when the verses were revealed, prophet’s wives immediately cut a piece of cloth and covered themselves. Also Hazrat Umar buried his baby girl alive as was the custom of pre-Islamic Arabia but when he became Muslim, he stopped doing that.
August 29, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Dear sher , no moderater delete any message. you can see here your both message. This type of doubt is also not allowed in islam. second some muslims here defending Allah bu supporting Holy quran , some here defending israar laeen and fabricated hadith , which is rejected by majority of Muslim scholars. Those defend Allah , will get reward from Allah and those defending israar, must ask reward or getting reward from him only.
we are slave of Allah not the slave of any fabricated narrater or any israar.
Judge any hadith by Holy Quran is a simple rule given by Holy prophet(s.a.w)..follow it and follow the right path.
ws
August 29, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Dear Mohammed Masoom,
Dr. Israr Ahmed is a respectable man. We are required by Islam to deal with wisdom, patience and kindness. The point I was trying to make is that he quoted from Hadiths and Bukhari Hadiths is considered the most authentic. How can you reject that? There are many ahadiths that talk about how pre-Islamic Arab culture was by listing what these sahaba karam used to do. I am sure there are many references to it in shia books. Unfortunately, we Muslims of today have developed a warped understanding of Islam (often based on false sense of righteousness) and we staunchly believe in our interpretation. When something is presented to them from authentic ahadiths which conflicts with their “current” understanding of Islam, they tend to reject the Hadiths. God forbade, they could do the same with Holy Quran.
There are many Bukhari hadiths that I was not aware of and were shocking to me when I read them but I developed the understanding of looking at their culture wearing 7th century glasses not 21st century.
In that culture older men often married little girls as little as 9 years old. In modern Pakistan, it is unthinkable specially in the major cities. Now are you going to call those Ahadiths unauthentic too?
If you would then your stance is wrong because we, as fallible beings, can have wrong understanding. People of the bygone era were closer in time to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) so they were not really off Islam. From that time to now, at least 1000 years have passed. Many things has happened in the house of Islam. Many sects have come into existence. People have adopted many customs that may not be part of Islam back then. If we look at our culture of subcontinent, Hinduism has influenced it heavily: from the red dress of the bride, to not doing the nikah at the Mosque etc.
September 1, 2009 at 3:02 am
Dear Asher Fawad ,
Israr do not have basic knowledge of hadith. and he is trying to get cheap popularity by giving statement based of unreliable source.Dear i am sorry to say you also do not have knowledge what is written in bukhari. There is no hadith exist in bukhari which support israr’s statement.
Now i Quote some hadith from Bukhari and ask .do you have faith on bukhari.?
The Prophet said twice, “(O you people) Be cautious! Do not practice al-Wisal.” The people said to him, “But you practice al-Wisal?” The Prophet replied, “My Lord gives me food and drink during my sleep. Do that much of deeds which is within your ability.”
Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 3.188
Narrated Abu Said al-Khudri:
It is Allah’s wish to remove all blemish from you, O Ahlul-Bayt, and purify you with a perfect purification. (33:33) Holy Quran
“There shall be twelve Imams/Caliphs/Amirs for my nation”
Sunni references:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Arabic-English, v9, Tradition #329;
and at last dear i have a big list of vulgar and foolish hadith from sahih bukhari also which i am not giving because i do not want to create dispute or hurt sentimets of any muslim.
In Majma’ al-Zawa’id and exegesis of Suyuti it has been quoted from Abu Said Khudri with a variation in words that:
For forty days the Holy Prophet approached the house of Fatimah Zahra every morning and used to say: ‘Peace be upon you O people of the House! The time for the prayers has come’. And thereafter he used to recite this verse: O people of the Prophet’s House…. And then said: ‘I am in a state of war with him who fights with you and am in a state of peace with him who is at peace with you’.
Sunni references:
Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Hafidh al-Suyuti, v5, p199
Majma’ al-Zawa’id, by al-Haythami, v9, pp 121,168
September 9, 2009 at 3:30 pm
all muslim brotheren should adhere to some disciplinary standards and not post any type of vicious remarks against a handful of good people like dr.israr maulana tahir ul qadri zakir naik etc. it may happen some time that they people pronounce stray objectionable remarks, may be out of context. this should not be made an issue. infact we should help in finding a part of the solution and not ourselves become a part of the problem. we should be well read and good thinkers and have an analytic open mind to deal with such situations. ofcource we all are in search of truth and salvation so help eachother in this regard. throw away differences of sects. adhere to the basic teachings of the holy Qura’n and sunnah. Kaun sa Imam objectionable nahin raha ??????? Yeh sab hota hai bhai……
October 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
I agree with Mr. Asif Lone. I also respect the views of my brothers who disagree with me. I think this debate is really leading us to the age old conflict: Whether the position of Hazarat Umar (RA) was correct or Hazrat Ali(RA). There seems to be a disagreement between the two parties as the Bukhari Hadith suggest (whatever little I have read of it). Therefore, I want to refrain from further discussing this topic since I don’t have enough knowledge to give a final verdict. How can I when towering figures of Islam have not been able to resolve this? I am nothing.
I think we all stick to whatever interpretion our hearts are inclined to. I, being a Sunni, consider Sahih Bukhari as authentic. So, if something is mentioned there which seems a little awkward based on our understanding then it is our understanding that might have some deficiency but not the book.
I wish the best of luck to all of you and please forgive me if I have hurt your feelings.
October 9, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Dear Muslims,
As we know that we have not such information regarding all these khulfai Rasheedin then i will request all my brothers and sisters please do not discuss these issues becuase theay all gone and we have not right to say anything regarding these undisputable personalities of Islam.
Thanks
October 26, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Qorane e Kareem:
Innad Deena Indallahil Islam.
The most perfect religion accepted by Allah (swt) is Islam.When Allah (swt) has made Islam to be the acceptable religion , He has not left it laavaris at the mercy of ummat upto Qiyamat after Holy Prophet Mohammad Mustafa (saw) left this world.
As Allah’s action is not without wisdomy, He had ordered Holy Prophet (saw) to appoint his successor (Imam) in his lifetime who will inherit him in ILM, TAQWA, INFALLIBILITY(ie. Massom who never has even tassawwur of sins , committing sin is second thing…..)
So , after completing his last Hajj , Holy Prophet Mohammad Mustafa (saw)as per ayat of Qoran e Kareem( Yaaa Ayyohar Rasool Balligh bema unzela………..)
ie. Convey the message of appointment of your successor…
appointed Hazrat Ali ibne Abi Talib (as) Ummat’s Imam who was free from all defects . Hazrat Ali (as) is not like other khalifas who brought Islam later on.
His birth in Kaaba itself is an indication for those who posess little Aql , that it was will of ALLAH (swt) to make Kaaba an indication and landmark for all Muslims who go for HAJJ and Umra to realise that Hazrat Ali (as) who was born inside this Kaaba is the rightful & truthful successor appointed by Holy prophet himself in his lifetime and thereafter his 11 successor of whom Hazrat Imam Mehdi (as) is the 12th and last Imam from his offspring who will bring Peace and Justice in this world after it is full of oppression and tyranny which is promise of Allah (swt) in Qoran.
So let me convey the message to our Sunni Brothers to identify your Imam which was appointed by Allah (swt) himself because on the day of Judgement you will be raised with your Imams and all your Aaamal will be accepted if you follow the truthful Imam as per hadees of Holy Prophet that:
One who does not have marefat of his Imam and dies without knowing his Imam, dies the death of Ignorant. Imams are not elected or selected by shura or commitee as it is not our job to make Imam of Allah’s religion as in Qoran we see Hazrat Ibrahim (as) was also made Imam by Allah (sw) and when he asked Allah (swt) whether this position will remain in his zurriyat , Allah (swt) said this position is not for those who are zaalemein. So it is is the highest position among ummat and any ordinary or ignorant Muslim howsoever close to Holy prophet cannot claim this position . Imam is Masoom and does not seek knowledge from this material world but he inherits from Holy Prophet (saw) as Hazrat Ali (as) inherited and passed on to his sons Imam Hasan (as) and Imam Husain (as) and then 4th Imam upto the present Imam Hazrat Imam Mehdi (as) who is proof and Hujjat of ALLAH (swt) for his creators.
He is not only Imam of Human beings, but also of Jinns and all creations of Allah (swt) and even understands languages of animals, birds, insects and other creatures of Allah (swt)
So our Sunni Muslim brothers, awake and search for truthful Imam and his qualities .You will find that Hazrat Ali (as) was the rightful successor and fulfilled all the requirements to guide Ummat as per Qoran and sunnat.
And ignorant speakers or those like Dr Israr Ahmad who talk such absurd things about Hazrat Ali ibne Abi Talib (as)
must control their tongues and talk sense before uttering any false / slandering.
Every muslim who wants to be on truth , be with truthful and die on Religion of Allah (swt) must follow an Imam appointed only by Allah so that on the day of judgement he is not with the pseudo Imam who has falsely claimed this title because you will go only where your Imam goes.
Hazrat Ali (as) will be at Hauze Kausar and will clearly identify his lovers and followers .The one who loves him and his childrens and his offspring (upto 12th imam) will be happy and rejoicing and his enemies will taste the fire of Hell. So love Hazrat Ali (as) as Allah (swt) loves him and his lovers.
Shuaib Husain .
November 13, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Salaamun Alal Momeneen …
Baraye karam ek baat waazeh kare … Yaha baat Maloon Israr AHMAQ ki honi hai ya fir Shiyo ko Kaafiro ke Saamne Islam pesh karna hai ???
yaane tableegh karni hai …
ha bilkul karege kyu ke tableegh ka zimma to hamara hi hai .. 123 ne kab kithi jo yeh karege ..
nyways …
Ye itne saare saare ilzaamat ya fir tohmate Shiyo par hi kyu ???
Bahot se Aise sawaal hai ke jinka jawaaab Nasibiyo ko dena hai …
Maslan … Ali se hi bughzz kyu ?
Umar se hi muhabbat kyu ?
Rasul ki baato se hi inkaar kyu ?
Ali ke Waalid hi kaafir kyu ?
Waise Umar ke baap ka naam kya tha ?
Ibn Sumaiyya muawiyya ka kaun tha ?
Aur Sumaiyya Aur Abu jahl ke beech kya rishta tha ?
well aise 2000 sawaal aur ho sakte hai … lekin karne nahi .. kyu ke sawal talabe jawab hote hai … magar andhe ke saamne been bajane se kya fayda ..
Khayr Paaglo ka Dr Zakir Nalayak ya fir Khalnayak aur ab yeh AHMAQ .. Abu Jahl ki Nasl se chale aa rahe haina .. to ab inse aur kya expect kiya jaa sakta hai ?
Lanat Bhejo Shia Sunni Wahabi Nasibi Saare milke … Kyu ke Lanat ke baare me to Khud Allah (swt) ne kaha hai ke .. jo haqdaar hoga usi ke paas pohachjaegi … To bhayya Lanat bhejne me kanjusi kyu karte ho … Bhejo agar Doctorayn lanat ke mustahaq nahi to unhe nahi milegi aur jo hoga mustahaq uspe chali jaegi …
To Dr Israr Ahmaq Aur Dr Zakir Nalayak par Lanat Be Shumar … Aur Jo na Bheje Uspar bhi Lanat Beshumar ..
Acha aur rahi baat Ilmi Bahas karne ki .. To Darwaza Khula hai .. Magar tab ke jab behas baraye behas na ho .. Husoole Ilm k liye ho ..
Khuda Hafiz …
Ali Waris …