Real difference between Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims


Real difference between Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims
The following is a response by Sayyed Mohammad Musawi to a queation from a Sunni brother :What are the differences between Shias and Sunnis ?
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1- One Religion:
Islam is One religion sent from Allah (swt) to all human beings as the last and final massege. It was never divided into different sects like Hanafi, Shafi’ee, Maliki , Hanbali,Wahabi, Sufi etc, but only because of people’s interference in the religion which is the word of Allah(swt). All previous religions suffered from the same problem of divisions upto the extent of loosing the real massege.Islam being the last and final massege from Allah(swt), was perserved by Allah (swt),so, Real Islam was kept and still remains and will remain intact, inspite of many divisions existing and even governing many Muslim countries.

2- The Prophetic Islam:
 The Real Islam is the Prophetic Islam which was preached and practiced by the Prophet Mohammad (sawa) and His noble progeny (Ahlul Bayt a.s.) , and not any other Islamic sect, though Islamic sects have many Islamic practices, but The Complete Real Islam is non but the Islam of the Prophet (sawa) and Ahlul Bayt which existed originally from the begenning of Islam before any Islamic sect came to existance, and contineued till now through Ahlul-Bayt .

3-Who Leads Islam?:
 The leadership of Islam after the Prophet (sawa) was the main subject on which division started.The question is : Who appoints the successor of the Prophet to lead the Ummah ? Is it Allah who appoints ? or anybody from the people?Those who believed in Allah (swt) as the source and authority to appoint the divine leaders are the followers of Ahlul-Bayt , while Sunnis believed that Islamic leadership can come through group of individuals as what happened in Saqeefa, or one individual, as when Abu Bakr appointed Umar as a Khalifah after him,or just six individuals from the whole Ummah as Umar appointed six to select one of them, or to be killed if they were unable to select one. Majority of Sunnis believe that any person can be a Khlifah as far as he is able to get the power by any way even by killing the previous Khalifah and sitting in his place.

4-Divine Leadership (Imamah):

There are plenty of very authentic evidences from Quran and authentic Sunnah that the Prophet (sawa) has not left the Ummah without perfect leadership after him. He has said many times in accordance to Allah’s orders that the leader after him will be Imam Ali followed by the infallible Imams from Ahlul Bayt . These evidences are mentioned even in famous Sunni books where they narrated the Prophetic Hadeeth stating that ( The Khalifas after me will be twelve all of them from Quraish) or ( The Imams after me will be twelve, all of them from Quraish).(Saheeh Al-Bukhari vol.9 p.541 and Saheeh Muslim vol.3 p. 1452 ).They also admitted Hadeeth Al-Thaqalain stating (I am leaving behind two greatest things, that you will never go astray as far as you keep following both of them; The book of Allah, And my Ahlul Bayt)Saheeh Muslim vol.4, p.1874, Sunan Al-Tirmithi vol.5, p.662, al-Mustadrak by Al-Haakim vol.3, p.109, Musnad Ahmad Bin Hanbal vol.3, p.14,Tafseer Ibn Katheer vol.4, p.114, Tafseer Al-Durr Al- Manthoor by Soyooti vol.5, p.702 and many others.

Following Quran and Ahlul-Bayt who teach the real Sunnah and have the real Tafseer of Qur’an, is the belief and practice of the followers of Ahlul-Bayt(as) who are known by Shia Muslims.They are in fact following Allah’s orders by following the ligitimate Islamic leadership, and getting themselves saved from going astray.

5-Saqeefa followers:

Other Muslims who are known as Sunni Muslims do not believe in the immediate leadership of Ahlul-Bayt(as) after the Prophet(sawa) and claim that the Prophet (sawa) has left the Ummah without any specific sytem for leadership, though many of them claim it as Shoora(election).Shoora in fact is applicable in managing wordly affairs, but never in religious affairs, as no Prophet came through election,so how Prophet’s successor can come through election?. It is only Allah(swt) who knows who is the best to lead mankind, and He appoints him.

Shoora was an excuse to justify bypassing the Quranic and Prophetic orders stating the leadership of Imam Ali .Those who claimed Shoora were trying to ligitimize the incident of Saqeefa which brought Abu Bakr’s government, but such claim can not justify why Abu Bakr himself appointed Umar as a Khalifa after him and did not leave the Muslims to elect a khalifa by Shoora as it was claimed by Sunnis as if it was done by the Prophet (sawa). Why they accept Abu Bakr appointing Umar After him and do not accept the Prophet(sawa) appointing Ali after Him? Knowing that the Prophet’s statements are from Allah(swt), while Abu Bakr’s statements were from himself.

In Saqeefa few people from Quraish led by Umar Bin al-khattab and Abu Bakr Bin Abi Quhafa along with few from Ansaar, gathered and argued and even quarelled, then Umar proposed the name of Abu Bakr to be Khalifa, in the absence of Imam Ali who was busy in the preparation of the funeral of the Prophet (sawa). Ahlul-Bayt and leading Sahaba like Imam Ali ,Salman Al-Farisi,Ammaar Bin Yaser, Abu Thar Al-Ghifari,Al-Miqdaad Bin Al-Aswad, Al-Abbas Bin Abdul-Muttalib uncle of the Prophet(sawa) and others refused the outcome of Saqeefa which was against the orders of the Prophet (sawa) who told the Ummah in many occasions that Ali is the leader after Him.Those who accepted Saqeefa are called now Sunni Muslims, where those who followed the divine leadership of Ahlul-Bayt(as) are called Shia Muslims.

6-Prophetic Statements on The Real Leaders after him:

The Prophetic statements and Hadeeths support the fact of the leadership of Imam Ali(as) and Ahlul-Bayt after the Prophet(sawa). Many of these Hadeeths are narrated in main Sunni references, so must be accepted by all Muslims.Here are Just few examples:-

A) The Prophetic Hadeeth stating: (O Ali, you are the leader who will lead my Ummah to the right path when they differ after me)(Al-Mustadrak Alal Saheehain by Al-Haakim Al-Neesaboori vol.3 page 122, Kanz Al-Ummaal vol.6 page 156, Tareekh Dimishq ,Biography of Imam Ali, vol.2, p.488).

B)The Prophetic Hadeeth:(O Ali, your status from me is as the status of Haroon from Moosa, but there will be no prophet after me).Quran states that Haroon was always the Khalifa and deputy of Moosa till the end of Haroon’s life. This Hadeeth was narrated in many Sunni sources such as Saheeh Al-Bukhari vol.5, p.280, Saheeh Muslim vol.4, p.1870,Sunan Al-Tirmithi vol.5, p.638, Musnad Ahmad Bin Hanbal vol.1, p.170, Al-Mustadrak by Al-Haakim vol.3, p.109, Sunan Ibn Maajah vol.1, p.42 and many others.This Hadeeth is well known in the Islamic books as Hadeeth Al-Manzilah.(The Hadeeth of The Status).

C)The Prophetic Hadeeth This,Ali, is my brother,my trustee,and my Khalifa(deputy) on you, so listen to him and obey him.)(Musnad Ahmad Bin Hanbal vol.1, p.111, Tafseer Ibn Katheer vol.3, p.352, Tareekh Dimishq by Ibn Asaakir Imam Ali biography vol.1, p.99, Shawaahid Al-Tanzeel by Al-Hasakaani vol.1, p.371, Al–Khasaa’is by Al-Nisaa’ee p.24, Al-Kaamil Fil Taareekh by Ibn Al-Atheer vol.2 p.41,and many others.This Haddeth is well known as Hadeeth Al-Daar.(The Hadeeth of the House).

D)Hadeeth Al-Ghadeer when the Prophet (sawa) said infront of thousands of Sahaba after asking them whether they accept him as a master on them more than themselves on themselves, and their reply as : Yes, then he announced that: (For whomsoever I am the master(leader), Ali is his master(leader), O Allah,support him who follows Ali and be enemy of him who becomes enemy of Ali).Sunan Ibn Maajah vol.1, p.43, Sunan Al-Tirmithi vol.5, p.633, Musnad Ahmad Bin Hanbal vol.1, p.84, Al-Mustadrak by Al-Haakim vol.3, p.109,Al-Bidayah Wal-Nihaayah by Ibn Katheer vol.5, p.209, Tafseer Al-Durr Al-Manthoor by Soyooti vol.2, p.519, Shawaahid Al-Tanzeel by Al-Hasakaani vol.1, p.157, Tareekh Al-Khulafaa by Soyooti p.200,Al-Khasaa’is by Al-Nisaa’ee p.28 and many others.

E)The Prophetic Hadeeth stating O Ali you are from me and I am from you) Saheeh Al-Bukhari vol.5, p.278, as well as the Prophetic Hadeeth stating Ali is from me and I am from him, and he is the leader of every believer after me) Sunan Al-Tirmithi vol.5, p.632, Al-Mustadrak by Al-Haakim vol.3, p.110, Al-Manaaqib by Ibn Al-Maghaazili Al-Shaafi’ee p.152, Al-Khasaa’is by Al-Nisaa’ee p.25. and many others.

F)The Prophetic Hadeeth:(Whosoever believed in me and had faith that I brought the truth, must follow Ali Ibn Abi Talib,because following Ali is following me, and following me is following Allah) Muntakhab Kanz Al-Ummaal with Munad Ahmad vol.5, p.32, Tareekh Dimishq by Ibn Asaakir Biography of Imam Ali vol.2, p.91.

7- Where Is The Real Sunnah?

All Muslims claim following the Prophetic Sunnah, but the majority of such claims are clearly baseless with the vast differences and contradictions between many Islamic sects in faith and practice, keeping in mind that the Prophet’s Sunnah can not contardict itself. The differences are based on different Hadeeths stating different statements in the same matter and situation. These are the fabricated Hadeeths which were made to meet wordly benefits of certain people or governments or groups etc. The fabricating of Hadeeths started during the time of the Prophet (sawa) and was so much that He declared on the pulpit that :Lying on me has become so much, beware , whosoever lies on me deliberately should be sure of his place in the fire.

No doubt, Hadeeth fabricating was much more after the departure of the Prophet (sawa) since many governors like Mu’awiyah and Hajjaj and many others were paying money to fabricators like Abu Hurairah and many others.Hundreds of thousands of fabricated Hadeeths were mentioned in the books and on pulpits to please the governors or to oppose their opponants.Sunni Ulama’ admit this unfortunate fact.

The big question for all Muslims who really want to follow the Prophet (sawa) is : from where can we get the real Sunnah and be away from the fabricated Hadeeths?

The most authentic source for getting the real Sunnah are Ahlul-Bayt , not only because they were living with Him most of the time, but also because their highest degree in truthfullness and nobleness, beside the Prophetic statements that (I am the city of knowledge and Ali is it’s gate, so, whosoever wants the city must come through it’s gate.)(Al-Mustadrak by Al-Haakim vol.3, p.126, Shawaahid Al-Tanzeel by Al-Hasakaani vol.1, p.81 Hadeeth no. 118, Al-Jaami’ Al-Sagheer by Soyooti vol.1, p.108 and many others).

Following the Quran and Ahlul-Bayt means taking the Prophetic Sunnah from Ahlul-Bayt(as) and leaving anything away from them.If all Muslims follow the real Sunnah, there will be no disputes or differences among them, because of the fact that One Prophet’s Sunnah is just One Sunnah which leads all into The One Islam.

The followers of Ahlul-Bayt take the Real Sunnah from the most authentic sources who are Ahlul-Bayt and the authentic Sahaba, while the followers of other Islamic sects take their religion from sources which are never strong and authentic as Ahlul-Bayt .

So, these are the main two differences between Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims:

– Islamic leadership from Allah(swt)? or from anybody else? Shia believe it from Allah(swt).

-From where to get the Real Sunnah? Shia take it from the most authentic sources who are Ahlul-Bayt(as) and authentic Sahaba.

May Allah (swt) guide and keep all of us on the sraight path of the Prophet (sawa) and Ahlul-Bayt .

Wassalamu alaikum wr wb

Sayyed Mohammad Musawi

World Ahlul Bayt Islamic League(WABIL)

London

wabil@wabil.com

Unity, Love and Tolerance – Islamic Perspective”

Shia Sunni ulema Reciting Namaz Together.

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44 thoughts on “Real difference between Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims”

  1. some sunni muslim ulema who r love to eat and drink is the olny thing in their life comes with U assholes that doesnt mean that we forgive. Every muslim mother told the stories of ur betrayal and slavery of america in iraq to his sunni son and we will see u in near future when we starting to conquer your land from U.

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  2. SALAM TO ALL MUSLIMS ,
    FIRST I WAS SUNNI NOW I M SHIA AND NOW I WANT TO SAY THAT SHIA IS THE REAL SUNNI,
    PLZ RESEARCH MY ALL SUNNI BROTHER FOR LIGHT.
    THANKS

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    1. salam my shia brother this message for aamir abbas before you r sunni than u shia and you say all shia is real sunni how long u accect shia than change again in sunni during this time u understand meaning of shia if you understand meaning of shia you never change again to sunni reglion say ya ali next time you write you email address i send some paper about sunni ok

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    2. Suuni people say Donot weep on Shahadat of Imam hussain in quran Shaheed is alive second if imam saved islam dont beat yuorself this ahappies news forhim and us.
      third imams hussain at time before shahad preyed and no song of sadness his nana knew it earlier.
      that why yazeed starting beating himself foe doing this he was also muslim, so shi r yazeed descentent

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  3. salam
    wiling to learn .with due respect hanbali,shafi,hanfi are not the sects, they are school of thoughts or scholors In islam u r beliver or none beliver not sunni or shia exist and muslims all over the world follow quran sunnah and hadith and sahaba there role modles including Ali(ra)Fatima(ra)Hassan and hussain(ra) as in tones of Verses in Quran and hadith is mentioned about SAHABA.we also need to learn more that shia thing is an issue of political not religious if we study the life of Ali(ra) and his nine wives and 33 children we do not find any thing that become shia or there is diferent islam or he have tlak abt ammamat . the issue is that munafiqs played there role at that time and became succeful to form a group whose new name is shia old name was khirtiji tribe who was involved in the murder of Omer Uthma Ali and also played a hypocratic role in the war of Qarbala ,so we need to learn we need to study the life of Ali and his family we will find the truth abt shia religion may Allah(swt) give us wisdom

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  4. I read first 3 paragraph and it is full of historical mistaks.
    correct them else no body is going to take you serious.
    as do not think to read beyond those 3 paras

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  5. A truth is a truth either you shout, abuse or reject nothing is going to change now, What is mentioned in the hadith as saqalain is unchangable if you want to get the right path please investigate because only one sect will go to jannah
    who is that It is in your interest or in my interest go and find out only the followers of Quran and Ahlulbayt will go to Jannah correct yourself. Not to investigate is illetracy and the saying of infidels because it will reveal the characters of charecterless.

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  6. this is a comment for: ‘Majority of Sunnis believe that any person can be a Khlifah as far as he is able to get the power by any way even by killing the previous Khalifah and sitting in his place.’
    i disagree with this point. because i know many sunni muslims and i studied a lot about sunnism. i never found anything like that. anyway i will not go through that way.
    what i believe is, all muslims are still same, but this so-called painful difference is initially made by munafics and their successor is the present media. they always try to devide the unity of muslims and distroy us.
    so i declare that i am neither a shia nor a sunni or i follow both of those. i am an ahl of quran and hadith/sunnah. i respect all of compenions of prophet(sm). because they are beyond our discussion or criticism. one more thing to say, the great persons we debate about they have been declared by MUHAMMAD (sm) as inhabitant of heaven without any kind of questions.
    so i offer every muslim let’s forget the devidation and follow ISLAM the way MUHAMMAD (sm) taught us to surrender befor greatest ALLAH.
    i deeply wish the highest success of muslim ummah by having a strong one nation unity.
    thanks.

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  7. ASSALAM-O-ALIKUM

    BASICALLY SHIA BOLTE HAI K IN KO DUA HAI K US WAQT KAHA GAHAY THA K 1 FIRKA AISA HO GA JO QAYAMAT TAK MATAM KAR K PURSA DEGA MAGAR YE IN KI GHALAT FEHMI HAI Q K YE DUA NAHI BL K IN KO BAD DUA HAI K YE LOOG ISI TARAHAN APNE APP KO OOT TEE RAHAINGE OR DAIKHLO AJJ YE LOOG APNE APP KO KIS TARAHN MATAM KAR KA AZIHAT DETE HAION
    OR JAHAN TAK BAAT RAHI K YE DUA HAI TO MERE BHAIOON allah PAK NE QURAN MAIN KHUD BATAYA HAI K APNE JISM KO AZIHAT DENA GUNNAH HAI TO allah K NABI KAISEE BOOL SAKTEE HAIN K 1 FIRKA AISA HOGA JO APNE APP KO MARTA PEET TA RAHAEGA

    SOCHO ZARA
    ALLAH HAFIZ

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    1. Salam, Muhammad taimour sb,
      Haqwwqat yeh hai ki Allah aur Rasool(s.a.w),Jo booltae hain woh ham nahin booltae balki unki haq baat main aisee batein shamil ker diya kertae hain ki sach jhoot main badal jae.
      Rasool e Khuda(s.a.w) nae yeh farmaya tha ki aye fatima(s.a), Is Husain ko maeri bhooka pyasa karbala main shaheed kiya jaega,jahaan kafan dene wala bhee na hoga. Jab janab e Fatima(s.a) nae poocha jab Husain(a.s) kae madad gaar na hoongae toh merae husain pae rooega kaun. Rasool e Khuda (s.a.w) nae farmaya ek qaum hoogi jo khud ko shia ne Ali kahegi aur ta qayamat woh Husain(a.s) pae rooegi, unka gham manaegi.

      Aap nae is rawaet ko jo ki haq hai, aisae paesh kiya ki usko jhoota sabit kerne ki koshish ki aur qatilane Husain(a.s) ki himayat shayad anjane main ker gaye.
      Haq ko waisa hi paesh kero jaisa hai.
      ws

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    2. at first i wish that all moslims get truth then i shoud say to the suni brothers n sisters that any one of us must be right so we should find the truth every one says himself right then the one who is trying to prove himself right should have proof n i have proof that im right because there is a question;who killd the beloved daughter of hazrat Muhammad (P.B.A.H)?of course ur omer…

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  8. ASSALAM-E-ALLEKUM,

    my name is Ali Raza syed sahab aap se ek baat poochni hain , yaar i guess ke yeh jo aap nae hadith paish ki hain aap is ko sahi se parho aur dosri koi bhi hadith jo bhi aap nae parhi ho os ko parho aap ko difference pata chal jahe ga i guess

    first thing aap ko pata hain 70 firkae hogay , first aap ko mein batata chalo ke jo difference hain kalme mein thora sa os mein bhi tum log kehte ho tum log sahi ho proof nothing shayad ho bhi send it to me 2nd namaz aap log thora difference tarekae se parh rahey ho agar os ki bhi hadith ho tu woh bhi send karo taake maloom bhi tu ho na yaar ke aap log mein aur jo sunni logo mein jo farak hain namaz ka woh kyu hain aur Ya Ali kyu kehte ho aur kuch log hazrat ali se dua mangte hain aur madad ke liye kehte hain jo ke Qurhan mei bhi likha hain ke aap kisi ko shareek nahi kar sakte aur jo mangna hain ALLAH se mango

    now let me introduce myself agar aap yeh samajh rahey ho ke i am sunni so it means u r wrong kyunke humarein ALLAH nae musalman bane ke liye bola hain na ke shia ke liye na ke sunni ke liye

    my email id is gh_communication@yahoo.com

    Apna buhat khayal rakhiye ga
    dua mein yaad rakhiye ga jab bhi aap ALLAH TALLAH se dua kare mere bare mein bhi zaroor kejiye ga
    ALLAH HAFIZ

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  9. Dear writer, Your total conception is absolutely wrong. Can you tell me two things ? 1. What Hazrat Ali’s ( RadiAllahu Ta’ala anhu ) concept was about Hazrat Abu Bakar ( R ) & Umar (R ) & the way by which they were made caliph ? 2. What Rasullah SallallahuAlaihiwasallam told about hazrat Abu Bakar & Umar ?

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  10. Salaam All
    Kindly share your knowlede about TALAQ in Sunni Muslim & Shiya Mulims Why it is different please proof it.
    TNX

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  11. To Sham Shah

    Astagfirullah, are you saying Salman Farsi was a Khawarij or Ammar bin Yasir? If you believe that anyone who opposed the rule of Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman are Khawarij, then your calling some great sahabah’s Khawarij, God forbid, astagfirullah!

    The Khawarij separated from Imam Ali and their famous statement of ‘all judgment is from Allah’ & no man such as Ali shows that they can in no way be Shia since the Shia believe Allah has authorised Imam Ali to be his Imam and caliph after the death of Rasulallah (saw)

    You say we need to study the lives of Imam Ali’s children, I agree. You said we find nothing that they opposed the rule of the ahlul sunnah, are you serious or are you kidding??? Lets start with Imam Ali’s 2 greatest sons, Hasan and Husayn. Both of them opposed the caliphs of their time and both of them were killed. Imam Ali’s other sons were killed with Imam Husayn in Karbala, do you think they were killed by the Shia Caliphate or the Sunni Caliphate?

    Ok, lets say we agree Imam Shafi, Hanafi, Maliki and Hanbali are not sects. They are schools of thoughts who disagree on how to pray salat, rules on inheritence, marriage issues etc. All 4 of them formed their opinions about the SUNNAH because none of them ever saw or met with Rasulallah (saw). Saying they are not sects but schools of thoughts makes no difference because they differ upon the sunnah.

    May Allah (swt) guide us all

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  12. Assalam o alaikum . . Main aur kch nae janti na hi maine history prhi hai bs sirf ek bat janti hun k mere samait tamam log zara apni auqat dekho aur un hastiyon ko dkho(hazrat ABU BAKR R.A and HAZRAT UMAR R.A) jin k bare main ap log itne ghalat khayalat rkhe hue hain . . Hmari tmhari kya majal, KHUDA TAALA ne kb farmaya k merey deen main nauzbillah ghaltiyan nikalte phiro aur HAZRAT MUHAMMAD S.A.W. Ki wafat k bad khilafat k muamlay sahi r ghalat ka faisla krty phiro?. Hm r ap tou apni namazein sahi kr lain r darud pak ki kasrat kr lain tou is se brh kr kch nae . . Aur hm kahan khulafa e rashidain pr ungaliyan utha rhe hain jo islam ko phelane ka sabab bne . . Whi hota aya hai r whi hoga jo KHUD TAALA ko manzur hai . . Sirf yhi scho k agr ye hastiyan kisi b aitbar se ghalti pr htein tou kya inhain dou jahanon k sardar yani ap S.A.W. K phlu main wafat k bad jaga milti ?. Ye koi mamuli sa’adat nae hai . . Is liye abi tauba kro r rah e rast pe aa jao . . Jo hastiyan AAP S.A.W. k phlu main mudfin hain, unk bary main ghalat khayalat rkhna khud ko sarasar dabony k ilava aur kch nae . .

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  13. how can you say ya ali kar madad, if allah all mighty help with everything and allahs favourite is prophet mohammad (pbuh), so shia’s are wrong, they should be asking god to help

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  14. have you ever seen shia’s burry their bodies and the bathing ritual, you would think that they are not muslims at all but parsi’s

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  15. mr syed get your facts straight, majority of muslims do not think that one can be a khalipha by just murdering the previous khalipha’s.

    why don’t you study the quran with meanings instead of making things up about islam and sunni’s

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  16. i will suggest to all my sunni brothers and sister’s to read the holy quran with meaning’s, if still in doubt about anything, refer to books such as bukhari, muslim, turmazi, ibn’maja and ibn’sunnan

    shia’s do not believe in the proper sunnah, no point in asking them questions, go to the shariah council

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  17. first of all shia must describe who are ahle bayt does prophet mohammad mary only ones with biwi khadiza and did he not marry more than 15 times what about those wife and their children only biwi fatimah was not only daughter of prophet and her husband hazrat ali is not only one son in law even when hazrat hussein, hasan,ali(r.a.) died they did not appoint any succesor after them neither allah send hazarat jibril to shia people to announce suc cer of this people so result is that this shia imam were self proclaimed or chosen by those people who want division in islam first of all after prophet mohammad all other people are equal to zero as mentioned in quran so who ever disagree with quran hell will be his destination you people need to decide your fate may allah guide you

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  18. Assalamalikum

    I was reading the web pages and sorry to say all references used in this article are fabricated and don’t say wrong thing in connection of the Quran and Rasool(pbuh) you will have to pay very heavily, do YOU agree that the king of Jordan is Hashmi Quresh and Ahlul-Bayt…….

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  19. Can someone please quotes me the verse in quran where it mention that Imam ALI would lead the community after Muhammad(SAW)…. please excuse me is i wrote sumthing wrong in my question i m just a confused man after reading everything….

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  20. These are all conspiracies against Sahaba Karaam.People who criticize them should look themselves first and then criticize those noble and holy personalities.Ye wohi Abu Bakr and Umer hain jin k baray main Rasool nay kaha:

    Every prophet has two wazeer (ministers) from the dwellers of the heaven (angels) and two wazeer from the inhabitants of the earth. So, my wazeer from the dwellers of heaven are Jibrael and Mikael and my wazeer from the earthlings are Abu Bakr and Umar.” from Jami Tirmidhi

    one day, Muhammad came out and entered the masjid, Abu Bakr and Umar with him, to his right and left. Muhammad had held their hands and he said, “The three of us will be raised on the Day of Resurrection in this way.” from Jami Tirmidhi

    and they are buried in this same way until today…

    and Hazrat Usman(R.A) wo sahabi hain jin ki shahdat ki afwaa sun ker Hazoor nay kaha:

    “Meray usman ko qatal karnay walon,jab tak main tum sab say badla na lay loon mera naam Muhammad nahin”.

    and Hazrat Ali(R.A) k baray main kaha:

    “Jis ka main maula us ka ALI maula”…

    This was the significance of our first four rightly guided Caliphs…and the other 6 also hold great importance who are mentioned in Ashra-u-Mubashra.

    people who say the 4 caliphs had dispute with each other should look into the books..if u r shia look into shia books,if u r sunni look into sunni books,if u r wahabi look into wahabi books…

    to hamara to Abu Bakr Siddique hai,Umer farooq hai,usman ghani hai aur Ali haider hai…

    aur jis ko proof chahiye k sahaba haq per thay ya nahin then tell me which book says They were not…and if 1000 books say they were and few say they weren’t then u r a hypocrite to believe that..Humari aukaat kia hai un logon per doubt karna ja Hazoor k saath thay..wasnt Hazoor the knower of all?…jis nay sahaba ko jhutlaya us nay Rasool ko jhutlaya…

    For All my sunni brotheres..if u diagree Ali(R.A) was hajat Rawaa,and believe that one should not ask help from him.then u r not sunni rather u r a wahabi..it totally permissible to say “Ya Ali madad” as Rasool(S.A.W) himself said.

    yes shia sect is a deviated sect in few things..

    1.They do matam which is haram,and unethical..Haram because quran itself declares it Haram..Unethical because they dont give respect to the family of Rasool..istarha galion main sare-e-aam Rasool k nawasay nawasion k naam uchalna is gunnah….
    2.They believe sahaba karaam were wrong,no they were not…if they prove it…ill convert to shia..
    3.They believe in Hidden Imam “Imam Mehdi”..we believe him as well but he is not hidden.
    4.They believe Nabi’s bar Rasool(SAW) are inferior to Imam..very logical that they are wrong..
    5.Bayshak Ali(R.A) allah k wali hain…sahabe karamat hain..but writing his name with Allah and Hazoor is giving him preference and neglecting all sahaba karam…and innovation in deen as well which is not permissible in islam…

    to all my sunni brothers.Ali(R.A) hamaray hain aur hum unk hain..wo hamaray imam hain..aur imam hassan aur hussain humaray imam hain…mango un say madad kion k tumaray Rasool nay bhi mangi…farq ye hai k hum maantay hain k ek commander nay apnay deputy say madad mangi aur shia portray it as if a slave asked the help from master..or put them on equal levels..

    Bayshak Ali(R.A) himself said “DO tarha k log jahanam main jayen gay,ek wo jo mujhe wo mukaam dein gay jis ka main haqdaar nahin honga(shia) aur ek wo log jo mujhe wo mukaam nahin dengay jis ka main haqdaar nahin honga(wahabi)”

    and later he added “AH…Muawiyaa(R.A) kash teray meray aur meray teray hotay to main dhekta k tu kistarha meray khilaf khara hota hai”…meray here reffering to then Shiane Ali and today’s shites….

    To Brothers shias un ka apna samajhtay hain aur affection show kartay hain but actually they were not loyal to him so dont deviate urself from true islam and the family of the prophet..if u deviate from the family of prophet u will be hell-fired.

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  21. think about the way of namaz in both the sects,one folds hands and the other does not,but there are no evidences of the holly prophet folding hands,want evidence.search the internet,why argue and make your own stories.the Quran was compiled by the first two khalips but none of them was from the family of the holly prophet they were companians the shia hate the history of Umar(check out on google).shia hate niether of them but by reading about history youll discover the truth.Theres no use of arguing.

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  22. like abu baker, umer becase muhammad said
    when umer wil embrace islam this will be victory of islam, and muhammad demanded umer from allah for islam ,
    ABU BAKER
    I to everyone paid the people all gratitide but me muhammad cant fulfil his gratitude in this world allah will do in day of resurrection

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  23. YAHAN PAR JITNE BEGHIRAT SHIA HAY NA UN KI AIK SECOND MAIN RAIR MARSAKTE HAIN SUNNIS NOT BY FIGHTING BUT MY PROOF FROM EVEN THERE BOOKS .

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  24. ZADA DUR KON JAYE TUM LOAG MUHAMMAD (S.A.W.W) KI HADEES POST KARTE HO HAZRAT LI (R.A) KAY LIYE . MAIN US SE KAHIN ZAD APOST KAR SAKTA HUN . TAMAM KHULFA SAHIDEEN KAY LIYE . ABEY KHABEES TERA KALMA ALAG , NAAMZ ALAG .PHIR BHI SHUKAR MANA ALLAH KA KAY HUM NE TUJHE KAFIR NAHIN KAHA TU BHATKA HUA HAY SHIA KHABEES . AGAR TERAY FIRQA TUJHE HI PARHA DIA NA TO AGLE DIN APNE AP KO KAFIR KAHE GA

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  25. HAR KHABEES SHIA HAR JAGA 5,6 HADEES LEKAR GHUMTA REHTA HAY . HERE YOU GO FROM MY SIDE

    Abu Saeed al Khudri reported that Muhammad said: “Every prophet has two wazeer (ministers) from the dwellers of the heaven (angels) and two wazeer from the inhabitants of the earth. So, my wazeer from the dwellers of heaven are Jibrael and Mikael and my wazeer from the earthlings are Abu Bakr and Umar.” from Jami Tirmidhi

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  26. Ibn Umar said that one day, Muhammad came out and entered the masjid, Abu Bakr and Umar with him, to his right and left. Muhammad had held their hands and he said, “The three of us will be raised on the Day of Resurrection in this way.” from Jami Tirmidhi

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  27. Abu Hurairah reported that Muhammad said, “Among the earlier ummah there have been muhaddath (who are blessed by Allah with inspiration). So if there is one in my ummah (who is blessed) then he is Umar.” from Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim

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  28. Jubayr ibn Mut’im reported that a woman came and spoke to Muhammad about a matter. He asked her to come back later some time. She said, “Tell me if I come later and do not find you?” Jubayr ibn Mut’im said that it seemed that she meant he may not be alive when she came back. He said, “If you do not find me then go to Abu Bakr.”SAHI MUSLIM AND SAHI BUKHARI

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  29. WANT HOLY QURAN REFERENCE

    When the disbelievers drove him out; he had no more than one companion. They were two in the cave. And he said to his companion: “Have no fear for Allah is with us”. Then Allah sent down His peace upon him”. (9:40)

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  30. Assalam.o.alaykum.

    Apney Rab Ko “ALLAH” keh Ker pukaro,

    Kiyun K

    Ye Wo Lafz hai

    Jis ki

    Na Zid (opposite),

    Na Jama (plural),

    Na Muzakkar (male),

    or

    Na Moannas (female) Hai.

    Jub K

    Deegar Alfaz ki

    Zid,

    Jama,

    Muzakkar

    or

    Moannas hoti hai.

    Misaal k tor per;

    God=Godess

    Devta=Devi

    Khuda=Khudaon

    Lord=Lords

    Waghera,

    Jub k

    ALLAH Ahad yani (Aik) hai

    Is liye hamain sirf ALLAH keh Ker hi pukarna chahiye.

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  31. where hazrat muhamad sw saia that after me you obey the abu hanifa and imam shafi said that i had not seen the bad man like abu hanifa he destroy the islam

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  32. aslam-o-alykum.
    i hope ap sub thek hogyn.. dosto ye shia suni farq koch bi nai hay sub log apas may lar rahy hayn…. hazrat muhammad(s.a.ww) ki wafat ky bad jub hazrat abu bakr (r.a) khalipha bany to shabiyo ny hazrat ali(r.a) say pocha ky ah ali(r.a) kaya allah ky rasool (s.a.ww) ny wafat say phaly ap say khalipa banany ka wada nai kiya tha?
    to mere payary mola ali(r.a) ny farmaya allah ki qasam agr muhammad(s.a.ww) ny mj say koi wada kiya hota to ma abu baker(r.a) ko katal kar dayta ..dosto is say hasab kar lo ky ye sub allah tala ki raza say hova hay .allah talah ny he saray khalifa ko chuna tha … or sub say bari baat ky agr hazrat ali(r.a) ko koi masla hota khalafaty abu baker (r.a) say to wo keo nai lar pary un say keo ky malo ali(r.a) ko sub pata tha ky sub thek ja raha hay .jasy jasy dor guzry wasy he hazrat ali (r.a) ki khalafat ah gaye . ye sub allah tala ny apni marzi say kiya hay keo ky wo janta hay hum sab say bhater ky kaya karna hay. hum sab ki kaya okat hay ky hum allah ky fsalo ko juthlayen? 5 tan pak or haq 4 yar par iman he hum sab ko janat ki taraf lay ja skta hay ..shia hazrat abu bakar (r.a) ko bura bala khaty hayn .kaya unho ny soch ky hazrat abu bakar (r.a) rasool allah (s.a.ww) ky kaya lagty hayn? ap ki payari bayti ki shadi do jahano ky malik ky payary mahboob ky sath hoye the .to ap log un ko juthlaty ho? why? yar kaya tm log allah ky faslo ko juthlao gay?mat karo apni jano par zulam … allah ap sub ko sahe ra par chalye… yaro ye sub kafro ka dhiya dhara hay ky un logo ny muslmano ky dilo may dal diya ky hazrat ali(r.a) ko 1st imam hona chahye tha etc kafar to muslmano ky dushman hayn allah ny bi farmaya hay .. or kaya hazrat ali (r.a) chahty thy ky un ko 1st khalipa banaya jaye ? nai hazrat ali(r.a) allah ki raza may razi thy .or khosh thy .to hum log keo nai allah ki raza say khosh hoty? yazid to kafir ho gaya par tm log apni jano par zulam mat karo haq 4 yaar ko mana karoor hazrat muhammad (s.a.ww) par kasrat say darod pak para karo …………….. mery liye dua karna plze ky mujy allah tala mera payar ata farma day ameen.. dua ka talab gar ……
    syed israr ahmad
    israr_shah32@yahoo.com

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  33. i have just started the study but the most logical and conviencing comments are the last ones from mr israr.however we must also give it a thought that leaving asside all the main disputes between shias and sunnis which as per my little understanding are the issues of first caliph and underestimating them, all other dissputes werecreated to create differences between muslims by anti muslims to weaken them, can you reply my following questions with REFERANCE FROM QURAN AND HADITH.
    a. Why shias do matam and are you convinced with it by any means?
    b. What is the logic/cocept of Muta and can u realy offer your lovedones for this purpose willingly?
    c. Are you convinced with all these provoking and instigating adresses by the shia immams and do you find any logic behind it?
    d. Why shias have changed their Azan and Namaz?
    e. Why there is difference of timing in Ramazan (Sehar – Aftar)?
    f. Why they spend millions of rupees on celebrating Moharram on Horse, Clothes, Majalis and many other things which are appearantly illogical?
    g. Why noprominent shia during matam has ever injured himself or died and they always hire poor people on money to beattheemselves?
    h. What is the concept of corruption during moharram by shias as their females are available for dating etc when rest of the family is in imambargah or majalis?
    i. Why all the actresses (more than 90%) are shias?
    If i get answers of above mentioned question with referances from Quran or Hadith and get convinced (which is impossible) then i have so many more queries which i would like to get cleared. One thing i also want to make veryclear that i have no enimity with shias and no one should get apprehensive about it but i this erra of general knowledge if we can not clear our doubts by discussion then we are and will be demaged by our enimies. We have no right to call any one KAAFIR, but we have all the rights to put ourself on true path if we are wrong or correct others. Now i have written what ever came into my mind and all my shia brothers must try to read it with open heart and reply if they have an answer or else ask their elders and then reply if they get convinced. Jazakallah.

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